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I've also personally used IPS4, and it's been great. Not only have I had close to zero issues, but it runs amazingly. As Aleos just mentioned, the current forums are extremely buggy from years of adding, removing, and modifying things. Your lack of faith is surprising and I have no idea where it stems from. Then you start bringing in completely unrelated points: The last downtime you mentioned happened before the change in administration, and Aleos has been extremely active since taking up the position. Not only that, but the market place was removed due to a huge controversy regarding the payouts; I'm frankly surprised you're either unaware of it or pretending to be so. While I do agree that rAthena could be doing a better job at community building, I do not see how that affects this decision in any way, shape or form. Make suggestions, write 'em out, post 'em on the forums. I'm sure the staff and community will be glad to hear you out. But do it with time to spare, under the discussion forums, not as a last-minute reply to an announcement. And this isn't me replying as any sort of authority figure, this is me replying as a standard member of the community who would also love to see it grow and prosper.

As other staffers have stated already, this has been something that has been in the works for quite some time. The thing is, when people say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" don't necessarily know the core problems. Since I came on as Administrator I have truly seen the problems ridden within the forum. Akkarin always told me about them in the past while he worked on stuff and I saw the issues it gave him. As stated above, this isn't something that rAthena is imposing on the community because "we have the power so we can do it" mentality. I'm not even sure why that would be a thought. While typing this post I had a notification saying someone posted something new and to "click here" to refresh the page without losing my message. In short, I clicked the link 30 times and it failed to show the new post. There are many things that were broken by staff that aren't even part of rAthena, let alone the RO community, anymore. Why should their changes that introduced problems in the forum still plague us years later? The forum upgrade is for the betterment of the community and the staff that work on the forum. Keep in mind that if something were to go wrong, we do have backups. There are tons of fixes going on in the background as well on the server to relieve tasks and clearing data that is no longer needed. This is a huge spring (in the fall!) cleaning, that Lemongrass stated, helps with management and provides a hindrance for future things for the forum. I've talked with Akkarin and to make it as seamless as possible the forum will just go into a read-only mode while a recent backup can be made.

Looking great, @MaterialBlade. If the client starts getting unstable, keep in mind that clients made before the new Prontera update have a hard limit of 3000 vertices per RSM node. More than that and things go haywire pretty fast. Also RGBA sprites are really bad for the client in comparison to indexed sprites, although I don't think there are any memory leaks. Props for sticking with this. I wanted to make a little Paper Mario demo (I even built OBJ to RSM and spritesheet to SPR converters), but working with BrowEdit made me want to throw my computer out the window pretty fast.

Hey Anacondaqq! Thanks for your feedback but I think you kind of misinterpret parts of the situation because you do not know enough of rAthena's server and software setup. Yes we do not have a master plan for everything yet but the current environment does not allow or hinder us in getting some things done. Cutting loose from hardly ever used features like blogs or outdated bridge sofwares for wiki and other stone old hooks that were installed into our IP Board is something good as it is not paying of and reducing administrative work. Since you stated that you managed many forum software installations you will know what I'm talking about. Any community software is nothing you install once and never touch it again and you always have to plan security updates and reduce possibly downtimes and create backup plans. Please never forget, we and certainly Akkarin who has the most work with this task, work for free for all of you. So reducing the cost of our spare time is something that you have to understand. Of course the community plays a big role for us too and we try to safisfy as many users as possible, but as you might know from your servers too this is not always possible and you will always have someone against you. So please do me a favor and try to make the best out of it and maybe give us tips from your experience of the installations you already did. You can also suggest features you would like to see on the new version and we will wait for other user's feedback as well and see what we can do. But as soon as there's money involved, bear in mind that we are contingent on the donations of all of you. You should also see the positive sides from the recent changes: The wiki was phased out to GitHub which will reduce load on rAthena's main server, since it will be redirected to GitHub. You can therefore now clone the wiki locally and use all features GitHub offers for it. Since GitHub has a far lower downtime rate than rAthena itself the wiki will stay online even if the board is offline for a few days again, while we are trying to reach our administrators for help. We will remove some old scripts, hooks and features that will also reduce the load on our server and will increase performance for you all. Lemon

Well, I don't like change myself and don't know why we have move to IPB4, because everything I need from a forum is already working here. But I hardly use the forums anyway, other than digging up information, so I rather let others that actually have to actively work with them decide what to do. I really hope the format / quoting doesn't mess up as it did on Herc forums, though. That was really really horrible. Also there's still a lot of important information on the bug tracker, would be nice if that wasn't lost. Including bug number (as old commit message link to those).

I appreciate your concern, but, I will tell you something based on my experience, There is something that rAthena's client -people who use rAthena- must accept rAthena's leader decision, like or not. And, even there are some people who don't like what u said, for me, there are some good points for others to review before using IPB4 (well, as long as you experienced the shitty thing of IPB4, it can be reference). [1] I don't get why Akkarin said [1] even Anacondaq said that he experienced with IPB4 [2] It's one of other points that I never can reach rA's leader (Brian, Maki, and ofc Akkarin) back then, they didn't (or don't?) accept people's thoughts if they think it's a criticism. [3] I'm not part of this, maybe hidden somewhere The World Only God Knows, and I just said "ok, it's cool (even idk the difference)" when heard the plan [4] yes decided, so actually u just need to say this to Anacondaq.

@Anacondaqq It's good to hear some feedback from you about these IPB product, but I am sure the admin team doesn't move to IPBv4 without any plan ahead. Moving to IPBv4 has been decided very long ago, probably around 2015. I believe the admin team has carry out enough of checking or data migration testing before they officially move it to IPBv4. Even if IPBv4 doesn't work or failed at the end, they still have the recovery plan to restore everything. Concern about these popular website or software who try to hide their bugtracker from public, it's common. It happen everywhere for all the software. Other people could have exploits the bug when they found out their target forum are using specific version of the software and that version contain bugs that are not resolved. and lastly, moving to IPBv4 isn't a decision that made solely by Akkarin himself, other moderator team members are included as well.

u just need more effort to learn from doc/item_group.txt db/import/item_db.txt 32000,WOE_Super_Box,Woe Super Box,18,20,,10,,,,,0xFFFFFFFF,63,2,,,,,,{ getgroupitem(IG_WOE_Super_Box); },{},{} db/const.txt (make sure no duplicate name) IG_WOE_Super_Box 1000 db/import/item_package.txt // GroupID,ItemID,Rate{,Amount,Random,isAnnounced,Duration,GUID,isBound,isNamed} // Always obtained IG_WOE_Super_Box,7135,1,50,0 // 50x Fire_Bottle IG_WOE_Super_Box,7136,1,50,0 // 50x Acid_Bottle // Random group 1 IG_WOE_Super_Box,11500,400,10,1 // 10x Light_Yellow_Pot IG_WOE_Super_Box,11501,300,10,1 // 10x Light_White_Pot IG_WOE_Super_Box,11502,200,10,1 // 10x Light_Blue_Pot IG_WOE_Super_Box,11503,150,5,1 // 5x Siege_White_Potion IG_WOE_Super_Box,11504,150,5,1 // 5x Siege_Blue_Potion // Random group 2 with rental IG_WOE_Super_Box,658,80,1,2 // 10x Union_Of_Tribe IG_WOE_Super_Box,1293,10,1,2,120 // 10x Velum_Jamadhar IG_WOE_Super_Box,1294,10,1,2,120 // 10x Velum_Scare

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