Amimak Posted July 20, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1 Reputation: 0 Joined: 12/20/11 Last Seen: July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) Hi everyone, I have seen many old topics about Harmony and Internal Guard with several opinions wrote by skilled persons. I would like now to raise the following questions : Can we still buy a Harmony license ? Is Harmony updated and efficient ? What about Internal Guard ? Has it become TREMENDOUSLY better ? It's been years since people were saying "Internal Guard are new, they need time, they will become the best available solution you will see". So I want your opinions about it (and i want them to be honest, accurate, relevant). Is there any other EFFICIENT program except those two ? And the final question : What is CURRENTLY the best, Internat Guard or Harmony ? Thanking you in advance for your answers. EDIT : If nobody answers the topic then i would like it to be removed.. Edited July 21, 2015 by Amimak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nullifier Posted July 21, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 45 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 140 Reputation: 11 Joined: 09/28/14 Last Seen: November 7, 2024 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Yes there is more efficient program try to use HaShield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekwar Posted July 21, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 2 Reputation: 0 Joined: 08/04/13 Last Seen: August 26, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Harmony is outdated but still in use. Internal guard, no one is using it. <--- i did not see any good feedback about it. HaShield Not sure about it. But ... since the Shield above ^are crap i think HaShield would be the best beside of Gepard Shield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapion Posted July 22, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Reputation: 1 Joined: 07/28/13 Last Seen: January 19, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) Ive seen a video with a full working autopot on HaShield which is why I think they did nothing but to copypaste the system of the process id specific blacklist from internal guard but didnt make the mistake promote how it runs. I didnt try it out but in that case you can just write a new tool with the functions you want and you are good to go because its process id is not listed. Already found a working autoclicker for HaShield so far which let me think its exactly like this, plus the admin of lokiRo released a working potnd on his server and afaik no other one was running. You might dont know it but you can de-list individual ids from its blacklist on internal guard. Very easy, very quickly. From that point HaShield is an upgrade of IG without that horrible shell around the exe. The problems in the their source code let RIP your cpu literally. I have an i3770k and had 100% after a while. This isnt even the case if I open 30 real clients in max resolution on my pc.. Its just clever marketing for overpriced stuff which adelays fanbois may going to buy and will change nothing over time because its the same logic behind which is already existing in other security programs. Oh, and did I already mention that even the latest rev of adelays is still letting ppl in hitlock for no reason even if they have Sader's devotion? Even 1 1/2 years after it came out its nothing but experimental shit to grab some money out of your wallets. I would wait how they will improve HaShield in the future or if there are no useful updates, just wait at least until they lowered the price to not throw that much money into their throats. Not for this immature software. If a server comes out which is worth writing some new tools, new working ones will be written imedietly. It will just take some time before they got leaked from exclusive guild circles to the mass of players. Btw: Im playing EstlandRo and from what Ive seen there is a bot around for GepardShield. Not to mention they want more then 200 dollar for their software. lol Edited July 22, 2015 by Zapion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagad Posted July 29, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 54 Reputation: 0 Joined: 06/04/15 Last Seen: March 16, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I'm following this discussion too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Functor Posted July 30, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 352 Reputation: 267 Joined: 09/08/13 Last Seen: Yesterday at 07:14 AM Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Btw: Im playing EstlandRo and from what Ive seen there is a bot around for GepardShield. Hello! Did you hear about visual bots ? Gepard Shield - it is a modular anticheat. Module against emulation of mouse and keyboard is disabled for EstlandRO MR by admin of the server. For this reason everybody can use automation script. For example AutoIt, Clickermann, AHK ;-) Edited July 30, 2015 by Functor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapion Posted July 31, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Reputation: 1 Joined: 07/28/13 Last Seen: January 19, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Btw: Im playing EstlandRo and from what Ive seen there is a bot around for GepardShield. Hello! Did you hear about visual bots ? Gepard Shield - it is a modular anticheat. Module against emulation of mouse and keyboard is disabled for EstlandRO MR by admin of the server. For this reason everybody can use automation script. For example AutoIt, Clickermann, AHK ;-) I think I have much more experience with you when it comes to detect bots, especially because you dont even bother to try to catch one. Im cheating/abusing things like 5-6 of my 8 years and see very quickly what is wrong and how it can be used for the own profit. You have a problem in bylan 2 with with visual SN bots btw. Should be 3 or 4 if I counted right. Could give you a very accurate example and why this highly unlikely not just a visual type but such biased admins dont deserve any help. Module emulation is working fine with my chinese macro mouse btw. lol. And its a unofficial known fact that a specific guild has connections to mao, the guy made harmony look like a joke once. Also, your gepard shield can cause heavy lightmap bugs which cannot be fixed by /lightmap. It seems like it is a connection with flash player (maybe its not but my flash player in mozilla wasnt running smooth, crashed and I had this error straight after that; fp is outdated and shouldnt be used anymore anyways). Very annoying when your full screen is white, unfixable and the error appears again after restarting the exe. The only help was a full restart of my computer. Not so amusing during sunday woe. To be fair, the error appears in very rare cases. We had only 2 players with it last woe. Edited July 31, 2015 by Zapion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Functor Posted July 31, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 352 Reputation: 267 Joined: 09/08/13 Last Seen: Yesterday at 07:14 AM Share Posted July 31, 2015 I think I have much more experience with you when it comes to detect bots, especially because you dont even bother to try to catch one. You can assess your experience as you want. But why do think that I don't bother to catch bots ? Can you prove it ? You have a problem in bylan 2 with with visual SN bots btw. Should be 3 or 4 if I counted right. As I mentioned in my previous message, admin of the server decided to allow using automation tools, clickers. For this reason it is possible to use visual bots. It is not fault of Gepard Shield. Could give you a very accurate example and why this highly unlikely not just a visual type but such biased admins dont deserve any help. It is just words. But you should know that any anticheat can be bypassed. It is only a matter of time. Module emulation is working fine with my chinese macro mouse btw. lol. I think, your mouse has own driver. Gepard Shield, as any other popular anticheat(Harmony, HaShield), works in user mode and can't protect game against driver in kernel mode. Also, your gepard shield can cause heavy lightmap bugs which cannot be fixed by /lightmap. It seems like it is a connection with flash player (maybe its not but my flash player in mozilla wasnt running smooth, crashed and I had this error straight after that; fp is outdated and shouldnt be used anymore anyways). Very annoying when your full screen is white, unfixable and the error appears again after restarting the exe. The only help was a full restart of my computer. Not so amusing during sunday woe. To be fair, the error appears in very rare cases. We had only 2 players with it last woe. It is a mere surmise. I don't see connection between Gepard Shield and your problem. Why didn't you create topic on the server's forum about it ? Why other players didn't say about it ? You should check your PC for viruses. If it does not help, I recommend you to create topic with information of your problem on the server's forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos92 Posted July 31, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1826 Reputation: 288 Joined: 08/03/12 Last Seen: 2 hours ago Share Posted July 31, 2015 hashield now having problems with latest rathena server files.. wew.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzioYaoditore Posted August 5, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 25 Reputation: 1 Joined: 04/10/13 Last Seen: May 26, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) anyone using this ragnashield? https://ragnahosting.com/ragnashield its free but for only ragnahosting clients Edited August 5, 2015 by EzioYaoditore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhaosin Posted August 21, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 45 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 172 Reputation: 0 Joined: 07/07/12 Last Seen: May 22, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2015 So which shield is best now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted August 27, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 265 Reputation: 96 Joined: 09/30/14 Last Seen: May 15, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2015 anyone using this ragnashield? https://ragnahosting.com/ragnashield its free but for only ragnahosting clients I am, and I strongly recommend it. Not only is it extremely useful for keeping people banned properly, but you can even use it for things such as preventing dual-clienting on certain things (BG, Events) and offering safe Daily Rewards. It's got third party blocking, MAC and other Hardware ID logging, protection from editing files you don't want people changing, and great customer service. I can't imagine running half of the scripts in my server without fear of people abusing them without RagnaShield being in place. Listen to me, I almost sound like some sort of salesman. But I'm extremely happy with both the protection that RagnaShield offers my server as well as the hosting service and DDoS Protection I'm getting from RagnaHosting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhaosin Posted August 27, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 45 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 172 Reputation: 0 Joined: 07/07/12 Last Seen: May 22, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) But RagnarShield not work alone, have to pay with their hosting Edited August 27, 2015 by zhaosin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promise Posted August 29, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 386 Reputation: 38 Joined: 04/28/13 Last Seen: March 22, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Harmony = Lag HaShield = Solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhaosin Posted August 30, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 45 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 172 Reputation: 0 Joined: 07/07/12 Last Seen: May 22, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Harmony = Lag HaShield = Solution Hashield = off sale ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_jx Posted September 3, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 22 Reputation: 1 Joined: 01/17/12 Last Seen: September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Harmony = Lag HaShield = Solution HaShield = Solution? Excuse me? It's a horrible protection..truth to be told. Harmony and Gepard are both on the top of this game. Although Harmony is extremely outdated, I'm not sure why the author did not continued it..but it is way better than most "protection" nowadays. Source of info: 1 guy from the Philippines bypassed ALL anticheat present today for RO. Edited September 3, 2015 by ____jx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker Posted September 3, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 9 Reputation: 0 Joined: 06/20/13 Last Seen: September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2015 About RagnaShield, really works? and if it works, prevent from using the new systems? like autopot and stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaLovesHamster Posted September 4, 2015 Group: Members Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 452 Reputation: 34 Joined: 12/18/14 Last Seen: May 30, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2015 RagnaShield does block stuff. However it does give you some semblance of control over what people can do with your server. If they still hack, go @ragnafullban up their behinds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Amimak
Hi everyone,
I have seen many old topics about Harmony and Internal Guard with several opinions wrote by skilled persons.
I would like now to raise the following questions : Can we still buy a Harmony license ? Is Harmony updated and efficient ?
What about Internal Guard ? Has it become TREMENDOUSLY better ?
It's been years since people were saying "Internal Guard are new, they need time, they will become the best available solution you will see".
So I want your opinions about it (and i want them to be honest, accurate, relevant).
Is there any other EFFICIENT program except those two ?
And the final question : What is CURRENTLY the best, Internat Guard or Harmony ?
Thanking you in advance for your answers.
EDIT : If nobody answers the topic then i would like it to be removed..
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