Fluffle Puff Posted January 3, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 375 Reputation: 88 Joined: 12/30/11 Last Seen: May 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Hello Ok, this is a suggestion, sorry if this topic does not go here >< I could not find the right forum. what think the Developers about security in rAthena? I'm talking about WPE/Rpe, Macro and bot system that affects a lots of servers. Most Developers say that we have to take own system but we AREN'T developers and most of us can not pay for a system anti bot/wpe/macro. optimization and security is always a key in these kinds of things and rAthena may take a advantage on eathena. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcenciel Posted January 3, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1315 Reputation: 372 Joined: 12/10/11 Last Seen: August 31, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I think this is unnecessary work for the Developers. It is not their job to provide security measures for you to protect your own server. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonne Posted January 3, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 149 Reputation: 33 Joined: 12/24/11 Last Seen: November 5, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Well, I agree with Arcenciel. The owners are responsible for themselves when it comes to servers. The developers responsibility is only to build it and (optimize it) and don't build bugs into it. If the system he build is abuseable then he either did it wrong or Gravity did it wrong. That, then, is the developers problems. But in the current state I am not sure if it up to the developers or the owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemongrass Posted January 3, 2012 Group: Developer Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 547 Reputation: 270 Joined: 11/08/11 Last Seen: April 23 Share Posted January 3, 2012 do you think the system would be secure if the code would be available to public? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Posted January 3, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2244 Reputation: 182 Joined: 11/19/11 Last Seen: April 14 Share Posted January 3, 2012 curious about it also, but then if people know about the code and dig into it, won't this be kind of useless again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gepard Posted January 3, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 392 Reputation: 285 Joined: 12/19/11 Last Seen: January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2012 IMO at the moment it is not worth doing it. For those who want to protect their servers, there are paid solutions that do their job decently. This is harsh, but if you can't afford, it's not developers' fault. Most vulnerabilities can't be closed efficiently if you don't protect the game client too. It's not our job to fix Gravity's client. If there ever will be a decent opensource RO client, then we should reconsider providing security measures in conjunction with said client. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurial Posted January 3, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 241 Reputation: 46 Joined: 11/08/11 Last Seen: January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2012 IMO at the moment it is not worth doing it. For those who want to protect their servers, there are paid solutions that do their job decently. This is harsh, but if you can't afford, it's not developers' fault. Most vulnerabilities can't be closed efficiently if you don't protect the game client too. It's not our job to fix Gravity's client. If there ever will be a decent opensource RO client, then we should reconsider providing security measures in conjunction with said client. ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xazax Posted January 4, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 427 Reputation: 123 Joined: 11/17/11 Last Seen: December 31, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Well, some of the protection needs/should be on the client side, it is hard/impossible to make a proper server side only solution to protect servers from wpe/rpe/macros. Moreover, once we implement something, since rA is open source, it will be easy for everybody to analyze the code, and search for a workaround. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalciumKid Posted January 4, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 257 Reputation: 253 Joined: 11/29/11 Last Seen: February 21, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Why does gravity use GameGuard/ASPLauncher/HShield/whatever the shit they use? Need i say more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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