Pneuma Posted March 15, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 846 Reputation: 137 Joined: 02/26/14 Last Seen: March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I've noticed that alot of people have decided to make their own RO servers and have no clue how to do it...and i'm okay with that...but some of the people who try have no knowledge what-so-ever about how to even get the files for it even though I'm sure on the wiki there is a complete guide on how to set it up. So could anyone else give their opinion on this matter? I just dont understand why everyone is doing it now~ Late Feb./Early March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jx4nk00 Posted March 15, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Reputation: 3 Joined: 02/24/12 Last Seen: August 2, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2012 mmm, u have reason... i too think it.. maybe for vacation... free time... but in part its good, ( i think ) in the future rathena will have a big contributors, developers or scripters... my opinion !! Greetings man And Sorry my English hehe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystery Posted March 15, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 94 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2192 Reputation: 252 Joined: 11/11/11 Last Seen: June 24, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) I personally find people who have no knowledge of running a server should never even open a server. Owners need to know that running a server for fun isn't something to do unless you plan on learning from it. If you have a server, that's good to learn on, just don't make it public unless you're actually dedicated and know scripting/sourcing and actually have interpersonal skills. Nowadays, admins are rude and arrogant and have no idea on what they're doing.. =/ Edited March 15, 2012 by Mysterious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerlinniel Posted March 16, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 12 Reputation: 11 Joined: 12/20/11 Last Seen: February 11, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2012 ^ I agree with you 100%! I was literally just thinking this to myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Posted March 16, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2244 Reputation: 182 Joined: 11/19/11 Last Seen: April 14 Share Posted March 16, 2012 good one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngek202 Posted March 16, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 530 Reputation: 33 Joined: 01/17/12 Last Seen: August 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2012 because they're young aggressive.. and they have money lol.. 1 factor of course is it's vacation., it's easy to ask because someone will always answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneuma Posted March 16, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 846 Reputation: 137 Joined: 02/26/14 Last Seen: March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) Mmm...All good responses... And I do agree with Mysterious; Now-a-days, most new server admins are rude and suck at keeping balance. Not only that, but they rely too much on making money or other people to run the server for them. Example: Midgard Chronicle's GM team.... I was there for a few days and had a problem with a player and had the GM look into it... I asked everyday for 5 days straight if they could tell me something about what was happening about it...All the GM team would tell me was "We're sorry, but we cannot tell you any information about it except that we're still looking into it and waiting for a response from the admin." Nothing ever happened to the player. Come to find out he was good friends with the whole GM team and the admin. Edited March 16, 2012 by Pneuma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurydice Posted March 16, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 414 Reputation: 102 Joined: 11/13/11 Last Seen: September 28, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I personally find people who have no knowledge of running a server should never even open a server. Owners need to know that running a server for fun isn't something to do unless you plan on learning from it. If you have a server, that's good to learn on, just don't make it public unless you're actually dedicated and know scripting/sourcing and actually have interpersonal skills. Nowadays, admins are rude and arrogant and have no idea on what they're doing.. =/ This. That's why a lot of servers come and go. Because people don't know what they're doing or they're releasing "unfinished servers". I think you don't have to rush in making a server, unless you want some quick cash *COUGH*. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeidan Posted March 16, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Reputation: 0 Joined: 12/20/11 Last Seen: October 18, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) I agree with a lot of what people here are saying, but the problem is, it's hard to learn how to successfully manage a server if you never make one public. I think many admins from the popular servers have gotten to where they are by trial and error. Yes, you can run a server on your machine, read guides and so on, but that's just not the same as making a server public and gaining real experience. It's much easier to find bugs and to learn how to fix them when you actually have players reporting them. I think at the end, it's the people that play on those obviously mismanaged servers that are at fault. Edited March 16, 2012 by Zeidan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngek202 Posted March 16, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 530 Reputation: 33 Joined: 01/17/12 Last Seen: August 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Mmm...All good responses... And I do agree with Mysterious; Now-a-days, most new server admins are rude and suck at keeping balance. Not only that, but they rely too much on making money or other people to run the server for them. Example: Midgard Chronicle's GM team.... I was there for a few days and had a problem with a player and had the GM look into it... I asked everyday for 5 days straight if they could tell me something about what was happening about it...All the GM team would tell me was "We're sorry, but we cannot tell you any information about it except that we're still looking into it and waiting for a response from the admin." Nothing ever happened to the player. Come to find out he was good friends with the whole GM team and the admin. this is one of the reason I hate some servers that pet players one of their friends or such.. and it's hard to trust anyone especially if you don't know them or even if you do know them (you don't know when the Dark Side would call them LOL CORRUPTION). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derceto Posted March 16, 2012 Group: Members Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 43 Reputation: 2 Joined: 01/17/12 Last Seen: February 15, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) @ts might be the excessive branching nowadays. Previously when you google "make my server ragnarok" whatnot you would get a few, but detailed and direct guides with links to updating resources (ea, games-service svn). Now that all this stuff is happening around with renewal/3ceam/ra/ea/clients it's gotten harder to find a good guide (not to mention that even before that starting a server, even not a public one, could be challenging). IMHO. Edited March 16, 2012 by Derceto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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