Olrox

January 27, 2013

@xarple

I did a quick test, (a parent cone with a child box) rotating. But trying to open this rsm model it makes browedit crash.

Maybe I'm missing something?

Here I attach the max scene --> https://dl.dropbox.c...t_animation.max

Edit #1:

Seems it is about the parenting, cause when I disabled the parenting of the child object, it is no longer crashing. (but it imports only the first one in a scene of 2 objects for ex)

Edit #2:

This is happening to me also when I try to import your fbx example to rsm, without touching anything on it?

Edit #3

I just found what you said, the converter only exports the first node of the scene (the one without any parenting). But every time I try to do a basic parenting, the rsm is crashing in browedit. am I doing something wrong? perhaps I dont have to add any kind of parenting?

Edit #4

Will test with max 2013 and FBX 2003.3, Actually I use 2012.

January 27, 2013

With all my limits in the area and being afraid of saying something stupid, I'm dare to say:

"g_unknown1", "g_unknown2", ""g_unknown3", are assigned if there are animations presents. It is like checking if it is certainly a 3d GR2 mob, in different levels (first as default gr2, then, going onwards assigning it as a gr2 with 4 animation indexes present) I'm thinking our gr2 default missing standing animation has to do with these?

Again, sorry, and perhaps I should shut the fuck up XD. All of this dissamble stuff is beyond all I know.

January 27, 2013

You really optimized it! even by adding a black texture if a texture is not present... simple wonderfull.

We completely understand the limit about skeleton, since, that is not present in the animation of the RSM models too. Don't worry about that. I believe skeleton is only possible in GR2 animation, we have a project about that here--- http://rathena.org/board/topic/68884-3d-custom-monster-in-ragnarok/page__st__100#entry174270

Again thank you man. As the previous tool I will do all I can to add a guide about using this new one.

January 27, 2013

I wonder if he can upload the original FBX file and the RSM result?

That will be a good addition, enough to us for do some tests.

January 27, 2013

!!!!!!!!!!

XARPLE thanks!!! thanks for this tool I knew you were busy to continue developing it and thanks for replying back the email I sent to you about this!

GUYS NOW we can do animated RSM Models with this!!! This man is amazing!!!

Before I did a video about your GND/RSW to FBX tool. I will do a video about this new tool too, so people will know how to use it!

Edit: Xarple can you upload the FBX original file you converted and the rsm result, for a reference to us?

January 26, 2013

@hyuna

Editing data/viewpointtable.txt as you wish

@Brian

Hey nice idea LOL Perhaps, one scripter can make it and share it with us!

January 26, 2013

The DL of this GRF is here --- http://www.mediafire...6f6qnollrg6inso

Let me explain what I have found.

This GRF is named as "primitive maps and mobs" pack. Made by "sinny" and it was released the first time in RMS, here ---> http://forum.ratemys...-maps-and-mobs/

Basically this pack is about 2 things: Removing Models and Removing Textures of the RO maps it has in. Apparently, the maps are just using some cells position of the only one bitmap texture in the pack. Making this "manually" for all the maps at the same time it is impossible.

I think he developed an application that reads the gat surface of the maps and perhaps it constructs a grid on the bitmaps and assigns a cell to recall in a x,y position in case it is no walkable/walkable/target/no-target/etc. There is some discussion in the past about this here --- http://rathena.org/b...-map-converter/

So how to adapt this to new maps? well, this is beyond my knoweledge, because it is more about programming skills that a design itself. However... it is possible to do it manually, but it will take a life to have only 1 map. Weemapcache has a preview tool which does kinda almost the same (makes an image made by gat cells) so, what I was thinking (perhaps kinda rustic) was to add a big texture on the map surface made of this.

It will be hard to make it accurate though.

January 26, 2013

Thank you a lot! we really appreciate your help on this. I have sent you some files that will be really helpful to you in case you want to dissamble this client, please take a look at your skype when you can afford it.

January 26, 2013

Hmm that is not a Kro Client related issue. It is not necessary to download it all again.

You are client is reading what people call it a "simple.grf" commonly used by players, and certainly what it does is changing the map models/textures as the one you refer. (increases the game perfomance)

So, open your DATA.ini and look for an extra grf file besides "data.grf", "rdata.grf" and your custom server grf and remove it.

Edit: Okay seems that it is not a problem you are having. You are using it by your own and you want more maps to it. I just read the small letters, so, please upload this grf to take a look and perhaps I can try to follow its structure and make the same to the maps you ask.

January 25, 2013

Perhaps you should tell us what font you want, or what font you are using?

January 25, 2013

Ricky92 Hi man, let me explain.

Ragnarok Online handles 2 types of -monsters-. Sprite mobs and 3D mobs.

After Installing Ragnarok Online, they stores the gr2 resources at these paths when installing:

"data/model/3dmob/" <-- Common gr2 files which includes the default animaton. The default last gr2 in the game installacion is named as "sguardian90_9.gr2". This "_9" is the id of this model.
"data/model/3dmob/bone" <-- Aditional gr2 files which has only bones of the previous gr2 listed. The max amount is 4 per monster. To our previous example, the animations are named as "9_attack.gr2", "9_damage,gr2","9_dead.gr2","9_move,gr2".

Additional, the "sguardian90_9.gr2" file is listed easily and handy (thanks by a previous decompiler of these lua files, made by our community) at;

data/lua files/datainfo/jobname.lua <-- Basically its function is about giving a name of the files listed, in our case "sguardian90_9.gr2" to only "SOLDIER_GUARDIAN".
data/lua files/datainfo/npcidentity.lua <-- Asigns an additional ID to this "SOLDIER_GUARDIAN" . This ID is used at the rAthena server emulator database, which it is asked at summonning the monster.

When "sguardian90_9.gr2" is summoned in the game, the monster appears by first in its "default standing animation", which is the one included by default in this gr2 file (as you see we are not changing this, it is just as how you said that the default animation is included in the gr2). Then, if it is asked to attack , move, or die (by our server instructions) the client reads, the corresponding id bones animations of this monster id.gr2 files And, shows it.

This Ragnarok game has 9 reserved ID monsters as the example I said, installed by default. Which they all follow this same structure of working. All these time doing our examples has been by replacing one of those 9 ID monsters.

Until some days we have been only testing our custom GR2 monsters thanks by your exporter, by naming our GR2 files just by replacing one of the installed by default. And all tests regarding this are good.

==================================

From this, we are moving onwards to the second part of this project:

It is about, using our custom gr2 files without having to replace one of these IDs. This is not new to us, since we are allready able to do it by only adding the new entries in the lua files I listed before. So as adding the new entry in the rAthena server database.

Our concern is, that, by doing this. this same GR2 monster that we have tested all these time and works pretty well by replacing an existing ID, now, as a new custom entry ID, it is summoned sucessfully in the Game, however,

it appears as a static model when you are standing. So as when you are walking, it continues to be static.

What is happening is that the Game Client, the exe, has a hardcoded function which tell what gr2 monster will have animation, and what not. At this point, This member: Curiosity accepted to give a try to this, and by looking at the client (for what we use IDA Interactive Dissambler) he found this function:

int __thiscall getGrannyModel(void *this, int a_id, int a_type)
{
 void *v3; // ebx@1
 char *v4; // ebp@1
 int v5; // eax@5

 v3 = this;
 v4 = (char *)this + 4 * (a_type + 4 * (5 * a_id + 40));
 if ( *(_DWORD *)v4 )
return *(_DWORD *)v4;
 modelResPath = 0;
 if ( (unsigned int)a_id <= 9 )
 {
if ( (unsigned int)a_type <= 4 )
{
  if ( a_type )
  {
	sprintf(&modelResPath, "model\\3dmob_bone\\%d_%s.gr2", a_id, animTypeStringTable[a_type]);
  }
  else
  {
	v5 = sub_6E6000(dword_7CAA8C[a_id]);
	sprintf(&modelResPath, "model\\3dmob\\%s", v5);
  }
  if ( modelResPath && (unsigned __int8)fileExists(&modelResPath) )
  {
	if ( a_id != 1 )
	  readGrannyModelFromDisk(v3, &modelResPath, a_id, a_type);
	return *(_DWORD *)v4;
  }
}
 }
 return 0;
}

Exactly quoting this line of the previous code, this is what limits the "Sguardian90_9.gr2". being the last "9" ID reserved to be readed as an animated monster.

"if ( (unsigned int)a_id <= 9 )"

Increasing this value hardcoded in the Game Client, overrides this limit, and makes possible that now, it reads additional gr2 files,and shows its animation by custom gr2 IDs besides the lastest listed as "_9" . What it has no sense until now, is, that it only shows the animations under "data/model/3dmob_bone/" So when the monster is standing it continues to be static, but when moving/attacking/etc, it is showing animation.

I thought that it was good to explain it all. (Since Ricky92 doesn't has to do with our emu, our client or data files it uses) But in short:

No, we just want to know how we have to edit/hex the client to accept custom GR2 mob IDs.

That is!

January 23, 2013

Concuerdo con lo que señala Leeg, y la organización que sugiere Brainstorming.

Hay que hacer las cosas bien y no ir tan apresurados. Lo bueno es que el trabajo que ya se hizo siempre se puede tomar como base y corregirse... pero antes de seguir a mas, hay que detenerse y dar el tiempo de darle énfasis a la organización que han sugerido. De lo contrario se van a ahogar de trabajo que hay que corregir.

Hay que darle formalismo y calidad al proyecto. No trata de traducir solo porque si, hay que recordar que se pretende que sea una alternativa fidedigna, estable, actualizada y bien hecha de una traducción del emulador actual... que pretende llegar al uso de grandes masas.

En ingles todo va pulcro, en español debe de ir también así.

Sobre ayudar, yo lastimosamente no puedo. No es mi ámbito y bueno, estoy hasta la cabeza con el proyecto sobre granny 2 que participo ahorita.

January 22, 2013

Did a test with the default WoE Guardian as a custom ID Mob with your hex change.

Same result, default animation is static. But additional animations are working... just like my previous test with a custom GR2. So, I believe it doesn't has to do with the exporter. There must be another thing to tweak on!

I have not tested a high polygonal GR2 mob yet, with your change. Gonna make it trough the day and add my feedback about it. About RSM Limit, I don't have an exact value. In my experience doing custom RSM models, I can tell it its between 2,000 and 1.500.

But anyway, maybe we can refer for those details later?, I'm kinda clueless with this default animation, and the other bones working!

January 22, 2013

You are awesome!... Tested!.

Good news: Testing now a custom entry in the luas now with your change. Now, the animations under "data/3dmob_bone/" are appearing for the custom mob id! Now the client is showing the animations for walk, die, attack for custom mobs ID! before It was all static.

However... default animation, that is stored in the default model in "data/3dmob/" is still as static.

In short, with your change, the animations under "data/3dmob_bone/" are working now. There is left the default animation "standing" which they are stored in "data/3dmob/" where in your past quote, I can tell it is refering at:


else
{
v5 = sub_6E6000(dword_7CAA8C[a_id]);
sprintf(&modelResPath, "model\\3dmob\\%s", v5);
}

Perhaps an additonal hex sequence edit is needed?

Edit:  Just read your line about the max vertices. That limit is pretty much more than the limits of default RSM Models. If you want to increase that value that would be awesome! since we will be able to use high detailed custom mobs 3d as the dragon we posted quite ago and it crashed due to the high polygons.

Now I wonder if the client also is storing a limit in vertices for RSM Models too.

January 22, 2013

Currently I'm using 2011-03-15a, here is the client I'm using (I assume you want it allready diffed?) ---> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/52175822/2011-03-15a_Olrox.rar

Thanks!

January 22, 2013

curiosity

Thank you a lot for your time and your interest on this. At this level that is almost all it is left and we truly appreciate your help on this.

So from the looks of it the max animation index is hard-coded to 9, which would probably be the reason why nothing happens when you try to go higher. Perhaps it'd be possible to just change it to a higher number and it'd work. I could try to patch a client for you. Though from what you posted I think there may be many more hard-coded values somewhere else...

I know what you mean, but perhaps we can only try to increase that max value of GR2 IDs for now. That would be enough for us . Now Regarding increasing the animation indexes per one model being complex, it was just a thought and forgive me if that is gonna be to complex, don't pay attention to me on that.

As you said, I'm almost sure that this instruction about max 9 GR2 IDs are hardcoded since when I tested exactly the same GR2 mob I used with the guardian reference, but with a custom ID the mob appeared with all its 3D stuff but no animation on it.

We will look further for that patched client you will bring us. We will be glad to add our thanks to you in our main project too.

Btw there are some gr2 entries that they are no longer used now, that probably we can use those are:

   [jobtbl.JT_ZOMBIE_DRAGON] = "dragon_5.gr2",
   [jobtbl.JT_HUGELING] = "Hugeling90_6.gr2",

So just as provitional I guess we have 2 available for our own purposes.

January 22, 2013

Did some time today to test custom animations, for "walk, dye, hit, attack and stand". A video which explains our limitations too.

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What for? I'm pretty certain the server has nothing to do with the distinction between 2D and 3D actors. The map server just gives notifications on movement, direction, attacks and so on. It's up to the client to pick the correct animation. I imagine there are some standard indices for the animations (perhaps even named?) which the client picks from in GR2 files as well. In ACT files there are usually five actions present; 0 => stand, 1 => walk, 2 => attack, 3 => hurt, 4 => die. Or did I misunderstand you completely?

Now that I have tested, now I can reply back this:

As I was expecting, it is not as simple as adding custom sprites. Adding the custom gr2 mobs in the corresponding luas, and using exactly the same gr2 files used in the guardian (which they work as all of you can see in the video) for a custom mob id. The result is a static model. With no animation, however the gr2 model appears.

Important:

Adding a cusom GR2 entry in the luas, and using the same spider GR2 used in the guardian id, which appears I'm using in the video, makes the -Z- value of the model decreases a lot, that means it looses height. Seems that the client or something we don't know adds an instruction that has to do with alltitude with the GR2 model. (again, we are not expert with customs in the client, which was the reason, saying it once again, that we were looking for help before)

The amount of gr2 animation files in 3d monsters in ragnarok as emperium or guardians, varies. The maximum set is 4 which corresponds to Guardians, but this is not a limitation in the gr2 file (which can handle any amount). We are looking onwards if in case we can add our own gr2 entries , that means to increase this amount of 4 indexes at max. Something I believe it has to do with client and instructions of the emulator.

Regarding further development that goes with interaction as we refered at the first post, and Greenbox stated as that needs to hook the client and source instructions, we are gonna leave that for the community development of people who are interested into this, as also join this project The first phase of being possible to add custom gr2 animation, and all that goes with graphic from our side it is ready to begin this kind of tests.

I have to say it once again then. [D]oss and me, we are not used to deal with client, and source. We are only used to deal with 3D and by our side after being possible to begin testing with the amazing tool that Ricky92 did for us, we have moved onwards our progress so far to understand how the animations are handled by RO and make possible to port our own to it

Whatever it has to do with making the client reads sucessfully a custom GR2 job view id (which is not working for a reason we obviously don't know, again, static model not animation) is beyond of our knowledge.

For now I will leave the custom GR2 mob attached. Totally in dispossal and ready to any kind of tests that this generous member who is willing to help us might do.

testing_animation_indexes.rar

January 21, 2013

Actually, no.

January 21, 2013

Because someone bringed some source code to our thread and I just can't take it out of my mind:

Seems like the animation indexes(?) are static and uses the following IDs:

void __thiscall C3dGrannyGameActor::SetAction(C3dGrannyGameActor *this, int action, int speed, int type)
{
C3dGrannyGameActor *v4; // esi@1
struct granny_control **v5; // edi@10
signed int v6; // ebx@10
int v7; // eax@12
v4 = this;
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 0;
switch ( action )
{
case 48:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 4;
break;
case 80:
case 88:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 2;
break;
case 64:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 3;
break;
case 0:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 0;
break;
case 8:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 1;
break;
case 24:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 5;
break;
case 32:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 11;
break;
case 40:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 12;
break;
default:
break;
}
this->m_nLastActAnimation = this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId;
v5 = this->m_Control;
v6 = 20;
do
{
C3dGrannyModelRes::DeActAnimation(v4->m_GrannyActorRes, *v5);
*v5 = 0;
++v5;
--v6;
}
while ( v6 );
v7 = v4->m_nLastActAnimation;
LODWORD(v4->m_GameClock) = 0;
if ( type == 1 )
v4->m_Control[v4->m_nLastActAnimation] = C3dGrannyModelRes::ActAnimation(
v4->m_GrannyActorRes,
v7,
v4->m_Instance,
v4->m_Control[v7],
1);
else
v4->m_Control[v4->m_nLastActAnimation] = C3dGrannyModelRes::ActAnimation(
v4->m_GrannyActorRes,
v7,
v4->m_Instance,
v4->m_Control[v7],
0);
}

void __thiscall CGrannyPc::SetAction(CGrannyPc *this, int action, int speed, int type)
{
if ( this->m_GrannyActorRes )
{
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 0;
switch ( action )
{
case 48:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 4;
CGrannyPc::SetGrannyAction(this, type);
break;
case 80:
case 88:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 2;
CGrannyPc::SetGrannyAction(this, type);
break;
case 64:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 3;
CGrannyPc::SetGrannyAction(this, type);
break;
case 0:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 0;
CGrannyPc::SetGrannyAction(this, type);
break;
case 8:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 1;
CGrannyPc::SetGrannyAction(this, type);
break;
case 24:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 5;
CGrannyPc::SetGrannyAction(this, type);
break;
case 32:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 11;
CGrannyPc::SetGrannyAction(this, type);
break;
case 40:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 12;
CGrannyPc::SetGrannyAction(this, type);
break;
case 16:
this->baseclass_0.baseclass_0.baseclass_0.m_stateId = 6;
goto LABEL_12;
default:
LABEL_12:
CGrannyPc::SetGrannyAction(this, type);
break;
}
}
}

I'll try to discover what are each ActionID, maybe they are indexed like ACTs files are.

I prefer not to make conclusions of something I have not tested yet. Remember, this is our first time in our life to use a custom gr2 besides of the ones that Ragnarok has.

The gr2 animations inside /data/3dmob_bone are kinda not standard too, and I doubt they can be threated as how Act files are. "Action GR2" animations, have specifically sets of bones and dimentional enviroment sizes specifically for the original GR2 mobs they have been designed for.

In case we try to use one of those, for our mobs, that will not work. I can say it even without testing.

However I think you are right. We need to do our test before. And We will continue then on our own side, checking whats going on. Perhaps it is simple since I looked at:

jobname.lua:

[jobtbl.JT_ARCHER_GUARDIAN] = "Aguardian90_8.gr2",

Where specifically in data/model/3dmob_bone the files are listed as:

8_attack
8_damage
8_dead
8_move

Taking this example I can say this name of:

"Aguardian90_8.gr2"

90 : Means Rotation of the GR2 Mob
_8: Id of the animation GR2 indexes. In this case, it matches.

Perhaps it is even that simple like the client will read the new entries by just adding the new entries in the luas for ex. I add a new id like 10, and then animations as 10_attack, 10_damage, etc.. (???) seems too much good to me to be real honestly, and then by adding the new gr2 animation files in the /data/3dmob_bone.

Or perhaps not.

January 21, 2013

Oh. haha. Lets see which one he downloads first~. You pay the lunch in case you loose!

January 21, 2013

well, no need description I guess

Sorry but I think I need it since I love your descriptions.

And yeah I can read them thousands of times. :>

January 21, 2013

Well.

As I said this is a really quick fix, and it doesn't makes sense to keep you waiting this amount of time. And since we are here for help... so here you have it.

Just some notes: The pack is preserved as how the original Author released it, intact. The only change were at naming the textures files. There were no changes to the map itself.

Let us know if it works now... What I'm thinking is that the amount of letters of the textures are too long. But I tried them and they worked for me.

aegir-creations_small-city_fixed.rar

January 20, 2013

Hello everyone.

Today I took my time to do my own tests with the amazing tool that Ricky did to us. And well I tried harder with importing a custom GR2 Animation in Ragnarok Online. Comparing the default gr2 mobs I just thought that [D]oSS and me were doing bad since we were importing the models with all the bones attached. And, it is only necessary to import the skin of them.

The following video is my first test I did, using the Granny Converter made by Ricky92, and using the Granny Importer for 3DS Max 7 *All tools are attached in the first post of this thread*. The original GR2 Monsters are from Ragnarok 2 Gate of The World!

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Typo error: It is "Granny Converter". Sorry about that.

I believe Ricky92 will add a new version of the converter soon. However I can tell that the Alpha version of it, works pretty well.

Some notes

We are still doing tests with the Default Rotation of the Customs GR2.
We are kinda early to add a tutorial of importing your own GR2, since we are doing our own tests. However if you are familiar with 3DS Max 7 and Granny 3D, you might find these tips useful:
- When importing with the 3DS Max Granny Plugin, import with the Bink Textures at "0" in all options
- If you are importing Multi Mesh Models, you have to Group all the meshes and import them. Otherwise the Game Client will only show the first mesh of your Granny Model.
- For testing animation, you have to import ONLY the default skin of your model in 3DS Max 7 using the Granny Importer. DON'T IMPORT the bones of your animation, or you will have errors in Game.
- Seems that resizing the models increase the animation speed. Or, it is happening for a reason in the game client. We are still wondering why.

If you want to test....

I will attach the files used in the video so you can have fun with them. Just copy the files in "data/model/3dmob/" in your data, and, for now only name the files as "kguardian90_7". and test by using "@disguise 149". Please keep in mind that additional animation indexes are not supported YET, since those are stored in "data/model/3dmob_bone/" and they are reserved in the client ... So, if you attack or die, in disguise mode your game client will crash.

Also, keep in mind that these gr2 are for testing and the test I did was on a skymap. Since the default position of the gr2 mobs are kinda not ready (and I have no time to test today), I just tested in a map with a view clear area as the one in the video.

Our State:

I think we have enough with default animation, and I believe we are ready to move on with custom animation indexes (that means, walk, die, hit, etc) just as how the default WoE guardians are. (Yes, what I mean, is that a custom gr2 mob, can store multiple animations in the same model).

In this state we trully need help, of people skilled with client packets and source, since our knowledge is more practical we are limited to do our tests more in a Graphical purpose. We will move on to try this multiple animation, but again, we currently need this kind of help.

Thank you.

3d_Mob_default_animation_test.rar

January 19, 2013

Hello, the angle is fixed, since it is using a custom background to look okay. However, I have seen people using it with custom camera angles -or even, with a free camera- and it is not that bad.

So you can try, but, remember. The idea of the map is to have a fixed camera.

January 19, 2013

Here is it (please look at the attached files too se how it looks in game)

Please, don't resize it or the pink dots will appear again. However, you can cut it if you want.

scr_logo.bmp

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