bonus bDefEle,Ele_Ghost; and bonus2 bSubEle,Ele_Ghost,100; are the same?

donkeyg · August 31, 2014

bonus bDefEle,Ele_Ghost; and bonus2 bSubEle,Ele_Ghost,100; are the same? are the same?

GmOcean · August 31, 2014

bonus2 bSubEle,e,x; +x% damage reduction against element e

bonus bDefEle,e; Gives the player's defense element e

AnnieRuru · August 31, 2014

no its not

bDefEle,Ele_Ghost;

used in ghostring card

and its known that ghostring card making the player turn into ghost elemental armor

rathena\db\re\attr-fix.txt

1	// lv1 Attribute table
//Neut Watr Erth Fire Wind Pois Holy Shdw Gho  Und
  100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  70, 100,  // Neutral
  100,  25, 100, 150,  90, 100,  75, 100, 100, 100,  // Water
  100, 100,  25,  90, 150, 100,  75, 100, 100, 100,  // Earth
  100,  90, 150,  25, 100, 100,  75, 100, 100, 125,  // Fire
  100, 175,  90, 100,  25, 100,  75, 100, 100, 100,  // Wind
  100, 100, 125, 125, 125,   0,  75,  50, 100, -25,  // Poison
  100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100,   0, 125, 100, 150,  // Holy
  100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  50, 125,   0, 100, -25,  // Shadow
   70, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  75,  75, 125, 100,  // Ghost <-----
  100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  50, 100,   0, 100,   0,  // Undead

non-elemental damage deals only 70% damage to ghost element armor

and ghost element attack (example soul strike) deal 125% damage to ghost element armor

also means, if the player hit by soul strike

bDefEle,Ele_Ghost; <-- you'll take 25% damage increase

bSubEle,Ele_Ghost,100; <-- you'll take only 1 damage ( tested )

Edited August 31, 2014 by AnnieRuru

GmOcean · August 31, 2014

O.o, I didn't think a further explaining was needed :/

donkeyg · September 1, 2014

no its not

bDefEle,Ele_Ghost;

used in ghostring card

and its known that ghostring card making the player turn into ghost elemental armor

rathena\db\re\attr-fix.txt
1	// lv1 Attribute table
//Neut Watr Erth Fire Wind Pois Holy Shdw Gho  Und
  100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  70, 100,  // Neutral
  100,  25, 100, 150,  90, 100,  75, 100, 100, 100,  // Water
  100, 100,  25,  90, 150, 100,  75, 100, 100, 100,  // Earth
  100,  90, 150,  25, 100, 100,  75, 100, 100, 125,  // Fire
  100, 175,  90, 100,  25, 100,  75, 100, 100, 100,  // Wind
  100, 100, 125, 125, 125,   0,  75,  50, 100, -25,  // Poison
  100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100,   0, 125, 100, 150,  // Holy
  100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  50, 125,   0, 100, -25,  // Shadow
   70, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  75,  75, 125, 100,  // Ghost <-----
  100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  50, 100,   0, 100,   0,  // Undead
non-elemental damage deals only 70% damage to ghost element armor
and ghost element attack (example soul strike) deal 125% damage to ghost element armor

also means, if the player hit by soul strike

bDefEle,Ele_Ghost; <-- you'll take 25% damage increase

bSubEle,Ele_Ghost,100; <-- you'll take only 1 damage ( tested )

bonus2 bSubEle,e,x;       		+x% damage reduction against element e

bonus bDefEle,e;          		Gives the player's defense element e

Thanks for the explanation!! btw how do i make non-elemental damage deals 80% damage to ghost element armor?

GmOcean · September 1, 2014

//Neut Watr Erth Fire Wind Pois Holy Shdw Gho  Und
   70, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  75,  75, 125, 100,  // Ghost <-----

Just change the value to what you want. Right now, it's 70% dmg. *Note - This affects all Ghost Lvl 1 type monsters as well.*

Playtester · September 1, 2014

I think he's talking about non-elemental damage from monsters that can't be reduced with elemental armor at all, not neutral damage.

Unfortunately, there is no easy way to add a bonus for that.

Maybe the setting in battle.conf helps:

// Note 3: Value is a bit field. If no description is given,

// assume unit types (1: Pc, 2: Mob, 4: Pet, 8: Homun, 16: Mercenary)

// For those who is set, their innate attack element is "not elemental"

// (100% versus on all defense-elements) (Note 3)

// NOTE: This is the setting that makes it so non-players can hit for full

// damage against Ghost-type targets with normal attacks (eg: vs. Ghostring).

attack_attr_none: 14

If you set this to for example "13" then monsters should no longer be doing non-elemental damage but rather neutral damage and the normal rules for neutral damage reduction applies. But that's -30% for renewal and -75% for pre-renewal by default, so you'll have to change the elemental table to 80% as explained above.

donkeyg · September 1, 2014

//Neut Watr Erth Fire Wind Pois Holy Shdw Gho  Und
   70, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  75,  75, 125, 100,  // Ghost <-----
Just change the value to what you want. Right now, it's 70% dmg. *Note - This affects all Ghost Lvl 1 type monsters as well.*

I think he's talking about non-elemental damage from monsters that can't be reduced with elemental armor at all, not neutral damage.

Unfortunately, there is no easy way to add a bonus for that.

Maybe the setting in battle.conf helps:

// Note 3: Value is a bit field. If no description is given,

// assume unit types (1: Pc, 2: Mob, 4: Pet, 8: Homun, 16: Mercenary)

// For those who is set, their innate attack element is "not elemental"

// (100% versus on all defense-elements) (Note 3)

// NOTE: This is the setting that makes it so non-players can hit for full

// damage against Ghost-type targets with normal attacks (eg: vs. Ghostring).

attack_attr_none: 14

If you set this to for example "13" then monsters should no longer be doing non-elemental damage but rather neutral damage and the normal rules for neutral damage reduction applies. But that's -30% for renewal and -75% for pre-renewal by default, so you'll have to change the elemental table to 80% as explained above.

hmm i couldnt find "70" this number in my txt.. this is my file

// Elemental Attribute Damage Adjustment Tables
//
// Structure of Database:
// Columns - attacker's weapon element
// Rows - target's defense element

1,10    // lv1 Attribute table
//Neut Watr Erth Fire Wind Pois Holy Shdw Gho Und
100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 25, 100, // Neutral
100, 25, 100, 150, 50, 100, 75, 100, 100, 100, // Water
100, 100, 100, 50, 150, 100, 75, 100, 100, 100, // Earth
100, 50, 150, 25, 100, 100, 75, 100, 100, 125, // Fire
100, 175, 50, 100, 25, 100, 75, 100, 100, 100, // Wind
100, 100, 125, 125, 125, 0, 75, 50, 100, -25, // Poison
100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 0, 125, 100, 150, // Holy
100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 50, 125, 0, 100, -25, // Shadow
25, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 75, 75, 125, 100, // Ghost
100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 50, 100, 0, 100, 0, // Undead

2,10    // lv2 Attribute table
//Neut Watr Erth Fire Wind Pois Holy Shdw Gho Und
100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 25, 100, // Neutral
100, 0, 100, 175, 25, 100, 50, 75, 100, 100, // Water
100, 100, 50, 25, 175, 100, 50, 75, 100, 100, // Earth
100, 25, 175, 0, 100, 100, 50, 75, 100, 150, // Fire
100, 175, 25, 100, 0, 100, 50, 75, 100, 100, // Wind
100, 75, 125, 125, 125, 0, 50, 25, 75, -50, // Poison
100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, -25, 150, 100, 175, // Holy
100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 25, 150, -25, 100, -50, // Shadow
0, 75, 75, 75, 75, 75, 50, 50, 150, 125, // Ghost
100, 75, 75, 75, 75, 25, 125, 0, 100, 0, // Undead

3,10    // lv3 Attribute table
//Neut Watr Erth Fire Wind Pois Holy Shdw Gho Und
100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 0, 100, // Neutral
100, -25, 100, 200, 0, 100, 25, 50, 100, 125, // Water
100, 100, 0, 0, 200, 100, 25, 50, 100, 75, // Earth
100, 0, 200, -25, 100, 100, 25, 50, 100, 175, // Fire
100, 200, 0, 100, -25, 100, 25, 50, 100, 100, // Wind
100, 50, 100, 100, 100, 0, 25, 0, 50, -75, // Poison
100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 125, -50, 175, 100, 200, // Holy
100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 0, 175, -50, 100, -75, // Shadow
0, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 25, 25, 175, 150, // Ghost
100, 50, 50, 50, 50, 0, 150, 0, 100, 0, // Undead

4,10    // lv4 Attribute table
//Neut Watr Erth Fire Wind Pois Holy Shdw Gho Und
100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 0, 100, // Neutral
100, -50, 100, 200, 0, 75, 0, 25, 100, 150, // Water
100, 100, -25, 0, 200, 75, 0, 25, 100, 50, // Earth
100, 0, 200, -50, 100, 75, 0, 25, 100, 200, // Fire
100, 200, 0, 100, -50, 75, 0, 25, 100, 100, // Wind
100, 25, 75, 75, 75, 0, 0, -25, 25,-100, // Poison
100, 75, 75, 75, 75, 125,-100, 200, 100, 200, // Holy
100, 75, 75, 75, 75, -25, 200,-100, 100,-100, // Shadow
0, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 0, 0, 200, 175, // Ghost
100, 25, 25, 25, 25, -25, 175, 0, 100, 0, // Undead

GmOcean · September 1, 2014

Edit: Read Below. I didn't realize it was renewal table instead of pre-renewal.

Edited September 6, 2014 by GmOcean

Playtester · September 3, 2014

The coded table above was the renewal table. You're quoted table was the pre-renewal table. But same story for both.

Just find the lines that end with "//Ghost" and then you can define how much damage ghost element should take.

If you just care for Ghostring Card, then you just need to adjust the level 1 attribute table. Otherwises you need to update all levels.

If you want neutral damage to deal 80% damage to ghost elemental targets then you need to put an 80 on the first column in the ghost row.

donkeyg · September 21, 2014

1,10 // lv1 Attribute table
//Neut Watr Erth Fire Wind Pois Holy Shdw Gho  Und
  100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  25, 100,  // Neutral
  100,  25, 100, 150,  50, 100,  75, 100, 100, 100,  // Water
  100, 100, 100,  50, 150, 100,  75, 100, 100, 100,  // Earth
  100,  50, 150,  25, 100, 100,  75, 100, 100, 125,  // Fire
  100, 175,  50, 100,  25, 100,  75, 100, 100, 100,  // Wind
  100, 100, 125, 125, 125,   0,  75,  50, 100, -25,  // Poison
  100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100,   0, 125, 100, 150,  // Holy
  100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  50, 125,   0, 100, -25,  // Shadow
  50, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  75,  75, 125, 100,  // Ghost
  100, 100, 100, 100, 100,  50, 100,   0, 100,   0,  // Undead

i changed it to 50%.. but when i wear ghostring card and asura by player. the damage still same as the previous 20%... seems like never change.. anyone can help me?? i tried @reloadscript / restart server already.

im using pre-re version

Edited September 21, 2014 by donkeyg

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