1111 Posted November 21, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Reputation: 0 Joined: 11/21/14 Last Seen: February 15, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Hola, El daño del dragon breath debería ser afectado por Archer Skeleton Card? Cómo funciona hoy día en kRO la skill? Saludos y gracias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziu Posted November 21, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 177 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 909 Reputation: 247 Joined: 11/08/11 Last Seen: July 10, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2014 DB -> Ranged physical damage (Area)Más claro no puede estar y Si afecta esa carta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1111 Posted November 21, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Reputation: 0 Joined: 11/21/14 Last Seen: February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) DB -> Ranged physical damage (Area) Más claro no puede estar y Si afecta esa carta. Vale gracias. Resumiendo, corrígeme si algo de lo que digo a continuación está mal o me falta algo: El daño del DB se puede reducir con reducciones de rango (e.g. Alligator Card), raciales (e.g. Thara Frog Card) y elementales (e.g. armadura de agua/fuego dependiendo del DB). El daño del DB se puede aumentar por mayor Current HP y Max SP (como siempre ha sido), y además con aumento de daño de rango (Archer Skeleton). Saludos. Edited November 21, 2014 by 1111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziu Posted November 21, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 177 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 909 Reputation: 247 Joined: 11/08/11 Last Seen: July 10, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2014 No se si lo han cambiado en rAthena, pero desde el 2011 sufrio un cambio en el kRO y ahora puede reducirse por elementales/raza, que sepa por rango no. si el punto 2 es asi, pero la formula tiene por defecto la reducción Vs otros jugadores fija. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1111 Posted November 21, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Reputation: 0 Joined: 11/21/14 Last Seen: February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Podrías explicar mejor lo de la reducción vs otros players fija? Gracias por la info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zikoziz Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 207 Reputation: 16 Joined: 12/19/13 Last Seen: April 24 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Me parece que solo el Armor Lucius's Fierce Armor of Volcano reduce el daño del DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziu Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 177 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 909 Reputation: 247 Joined: 11/08/11 Last Seen: July 10, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Cartas raciales, elementales (tanto encantamientos/equipo/cartas) reduce el daño del DB, aparte de que está afectado por la reducción directa Vs players en la misma fórmula Fix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zikoziz Posted November 23, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 207 Reputation: 16 Joined: 12/19/13 Last Seen: April 24 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Cartas raciales, elementales (tanto encantamientos/equipo/cartas) reduce el daño del DB, aparte de que está afectado por la reducción directa Vs players en la misma fórmula Fix Gracias Lo habia escuchado pero no lo probe XD ando en pre rene XDDDDD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziu Posted November 23, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 177 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 909 Reputation: 247 Joined: 11/08/11 Last Seen: July 10, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2014 La DEF tanto hard como soft. También reduce el daño. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaKiss Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 223 Reputation: 4 Joined: 02/23/12 Last Seen: April 26 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The effect(damage) of Dragon Breath is based on Current HP and Max SP. No cards, items or reductions affect it. Only items and skills which boost HP or SP will affect it. You cannot use cards that do % damage or other forms of damage enhancing to boost your Dragon Breath damage. The most efficient weapon for Dragon Breath usage is a quad Hunter Fly (suffix: Malicious) dagger, as it gives you a % of your damage back as health. Since it is based on Current HP and not Max HP it will help you get max damage. Dragon Breath is currently an attack that is not reduced by any reduction gear, it is it's own class of what one can call "dragon-fire". It is not stopped by ME. It is not stopped by Pneuma. It is not stopped by Safety Wall. It is not reduced by any type of fire armor/reduction. It is not reduced by any gear such as Asprika, Nidhoggurs Garment, etc. It is not reduced from players in siege or PvP by Demi Human reductions. The only thing that reduces Dragon Breath is Fire Armor, such as Lucius's Fierce Armor of Volcano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziu Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 177 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 909 Reputation: 247 Joined: 11/08/11 Last Seen: July 10, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The effect(damage) of Dragon Breath is based on Current HP and Max SP. No cards, items or reductions affect it. Only items and skills which boost HP or SP will affect it. You cannot use cards that do % damage or other forms of damage enhancing to boost your Dragon Breath damage. The most efficient weapon for Dragon Breath usage is a quad Hunter Fly (suffix: Malicious) dagger, as it gives you a % of your damage back as health. Since it is based on Current HP and not Max HP it will help you get max damage. Dragon Breath is currently an attack that is not reduced by any reduction gear, it is it's own class of what one can call "dragon-fire". It is not stopped by ME. It is not stopped by Pneuma. It is not stopped by Safety Wall. It is not reduced by any type of fire armor/reduction. It is not reduced by any gear such as Asprika, Nidhoggurs Garment, etc. It is not reduced from players in siege or PvP by Demi Human reductions. The only thing that reduces Dragon Breath is Fire Armor, such as Lucius's Fierce Armor of Volcano. Irowiki info is old.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanoSprites Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 28 Reputation: 0 Joined: 10/06/12 Last Seen: December 10, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2014 http://rathena.org/board/topic/80628-where-to-get-latest-update-of-dragon-breath/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaKiss Posted November 26, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 223 Reputation: 4 Joined: 02/23/12 Last Seen: April 26 Share Posted November 26, 2014 if its old whats the 26/11/14 actual formula for dmg KRO and reducc KRO and the one in IRO actual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziu Posted November 26, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 177 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 909 Reputation: 247 Joined: 11/08/11 Last Seen: July 10, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2014 if its old whats the 26/11/14 actual formula for dmg KRO and reducc KRO and the one in IRO actual DB is reduccible by race card/elemental and DEF Hard+soft. DB increase dmg using physical ranged increase DMG, expert archer, skeleton archer card etc etc.. DB in the formula itself has implemented the damage reduction Vs Demi-Human in FIXED continue?......and iRO using old formula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaKiss Posted November 27, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 223 Reputation: 4 Joined: 02/23/12 Last Seen: April 26 Share Posted November 27, 2014 entonces lo que has dicho en este post es falso o desactualizado? http://rathena.org/board/topic/96752-reduccion-y-da%C3%B1o-de-dragon-breath/?hl=%2Bdragon+%2Bbreath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziu Posted November 27, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 177 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 909 Reputation: 247 Joined: 11/08/11 Last Seen: July 10, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2014 entonces lo que has dicho en este post es falso o desactualizado? http://rathena.org/board/topic/96752-reduccion-y-da%C3%B1o-de-dragon-breath/?hl=%2Bdragon+%2Bbreath desactualizado. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaKiss Posted November 27, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 223 Reputation: 4 Joined: 02/23/12 Last Seen: April 26 Share Posted November 27, 2014 y hay algun post oficial con toda esta informacion? tambien sobre el flash combo me interesaria revisarla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanoSprites Posted November 28, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 28 Reputation: 0 Joined: 10/06/12 Last Seen: December 10, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) tengo un video de iro sakray donde funciona con archer skel el aumento de damage :| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIeOU8_2voE#t=62 Edited November 28, 2014 by SusanoSprites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziu Posted November 29, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 177 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 909 Reputation: 247 Joined: 11/08/11 Last Seen: July 10, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2014 y hay algun post oficial con toda esta informacion? tambien sobre el flash combo me interesaria revisarla Más info oficial que esta por ejemplo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1111 Posted November 29, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Reputation: 0 Joined: 11/21/14 Last Seen: February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Gracias! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanoSprites Posted November 29, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 28 Reputation: 0 Joined: 10/06/12 Last Seen: December 10, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2014 ziu y la ice pick no influencia el damage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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