thank you for your respond. yep, i can see that the rAthena community is very active and it also growing up. much problem has been solved by dev and also from the community. just 1 more question. what is the differences between 3CeAM and rAthena since they both are in 3rd job classes modifications. i'm still in dilemma to choosing which one should i pick up for my project. again, thank you so much!