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comparative Renewal Sakray Vs rAthena


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Initial:

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Initial

Sakray HP = 13846 Vs rAthena HP = 13798 (sakray trans ranger) (rAthena Trans ranger)

Sakray HIT = 342 Vs rAThena HIT = 352

The rest is identical

UP AGI-> 50+8

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Sakray ASPD = rAthena ASPD

Sakray DEF1 = rAThena DEF1

UP AGI -> 100+8

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Sakray ASPD = rAthena ASPD

Sakray DEF1 = rAThena DEF1

UP DEX 50+16

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Sakray ASPD = rAthena ASPD

Sakray DEF1 = rAThena DEF1

Sakray HIT = 391 Vs rAThena HIT = 401

UP VIT 45+5

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Sakray DEF1 = rAThena DEF1

Sakray HP = 19594 Vs rAthena HP = 19527

UP DEX 84+16

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Sakray ASPD = rAthena ASPD

Sakray HIT = 425 Vs rAThena HIT = 435

UP VIT 95+5

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Sakray DEF1 = rAThena DEF1

Sakray HP = 26126 Vs rAthena HP = 26037

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Looks like we're almost identical with kRO. Great and thanks for this comparison screenshots.

The only difference is HIT and HP formulas.

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BTW I just want to make some clarification that only HP formula is missing in rathena specially with 3rd jobs...

the variance of the hit is cause of Vultures eye hit bonus...in Renewal the hit bonus is remove...anyway I'll do the fix if I'm free...^^

and thanks for the comparison..^^

and sir Zui how did you reset your stat in kRO Sakray?? I can't find it...

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Here's the diff for status.c (rev r15734) http://pastebin.com/qzyFrkNbAnd here the db files:The real only difference is on ninja & guns HP, the rest is on Munak/Bongun classes (yep, they are on aegis files XD) and aren't relevant, so you can delete those classes and join job_maxsp files into one.pre-re/job_maxhp.txt http://pastebin.com/PHSB3F5Tpre-re/job_maxsp.txt http://pastebin.com/C3QVMgtsre/job_maxhp.txt http://pastebin.com/CvyN34hFre/job_maxsp.txt http://pastebin.com/EycnqLffEdit: Oops! I forgot: You have to remove HPFactor,HPMultiplicator & SPFactor fields from job_db1.txt too

It's look to fix the hp =)

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In my opinion, Vulture's Eye bonus not showing up in AEGIS is a bug and it shouldn't be replicated in rAthena...

@edit

When bRO updated to Renewal, ItachiSan from Cronus Emulator figured out how the HP formula works above level 99. AEGIS used a table only to avoid calculating the values in runtime (and probably to allow server-specific values).

http://trac.cronus-e.../changeset/3144

Formula:

HP(level) =    undefined, if level < 99
       HP_99, if level == 99
       HP_100, if level == 100
       HP(level - 1) + Job_HP + floor(Base_Value + (level - 101) * Level_Multiplier), if level > 100

Level_Multiplier and Base_Value have at most 2 decimal places.

All constants are unique to each job (but not to each class, so Baby Rune Knight, Rune Knight and Rune Knight Trans have the same values).

I'm not sure if bRO and kRO formulae are the same, but it's a start.

Also, according to him, there seems to be a rounding bug that was only noticed after the HPs got big enough.

rAthena does:

MAX_HP = floor(floor((BASE_HP * (1 + VIT / 100)) * TRANS_BONUS)

AEGIS does:

MAX_HP = floor(floor((BASE_HP * TRANS_BONUS) * (1 + VIT / 100))

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In my opinion, Vulture's Eye bonus not showing up in AEGIS is a bug and it shouldn't be replicated in rAthena...

oh..really...then we need more testing to confirm this...XD

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Try changing the HPFactor, HPMultiplicator, and SPFactor column's settings in the job_db1 file for the 3rd jobs. Their currently using the same settings as their 2nd job parts. Also I do remember compareing MaxHP/MaxSP for different level 99 2nd jobs to level 99 3rd jobs and ive found small difference in the MaxHP/MaxSP for them. So changing those columns settings for 3rd's could fix the problem.

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The issue may just require adjusting those column settings for the 3rd jobs.

3rd jobs HP/SP when increasing in base level are not the same with the increase with the lower classes...I think they have a different calculation for it..

I already tested it..:)

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http://pastebin.com/zy4TVgM9 tries to find the x, y and z for the recursive function

HP(level) = HP(level - 1) + x + ((y + (level - 101) * z) / 1000)

given HP(100) and a table to compare the results of HP(a).

Using the Ranger table as input, the following output is generated:

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So, perfect matches for all the levels, it seems like it's the formula used by kRO =P

And if it's not, it's good enough.

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its just a little. gogo dev. support you all :)

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Bringing this back - there are still (very small) differences between us and your screenshots, even after implementing official HP/SP tables and Renewal Attack (along with countless other fixes). Can anyone explain them?

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Time to revise the trunk and to make it accurate. but it takes lot of time to our developer due to limited resources. i guess

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