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2 hours ago, meyraw said:

 

So, you're having a special page on your website for re-selling my work and now you're telling that there's no money involved? What a nonsense.

First, I think you only provide you "free" support to your PAID clients and as long as they PAY you? Oops, suddenly money become involved.

Second, I don't really care who is re-selling: you, your brother, your friend developer, whatever. As long as you're helping him/her to distribute, while knowing that this app is a modified AndRO, you are involved. Like I said, this topic is a warning for others, that the same thing can happen to them: suddenly their work gets sold by one of your "partners", and of course you're denying everything.

And third, stop telling me "Improve your app" or "Improve your support" or whatever else about my improvement. If you wanted to help me in improvement you would send me a message to cooperate instead of stealing the code or working with the guy who stole it.

 

all i can see here is all allegation without any proof. show your proof if you can provide it specially the code what you are saying. but how can you compare it if Skyzone Hosting doesn't have the code for that apps. PandRO have own maintainer or developer. he/she should be the one who you talking about this matter. but before complaining secure your apps first so this issue wont happen again. if  you got issue with PandRO. its only you and the developer. the 3rd party services is not liable for this matter. 

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@meyraw The only thing you have to do is , register your app as intellectual property to protect what you did, anyone who knows how to decompile apk, can make a scan of such applications, pandro from what I've seen is only interface modification but it is still the same andro code.

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This is why talented developers like @meyraw have stopped working on their projects since we condone spreading other people's work. To be honest, he has the right to do so regardless of the price meyraw set because he is the one who developed it. Its not mandatory for everyone to purchase it but only those who wish to avail. What I'm trying to say is we should never support distributing the works of other just for our own benefits.
Let's support Legit developer who contributed their works for our beloved game. 

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@JinYuichi You may be right. It's much harder to protect Java bytecode than a C++ native code. Having that said, even Gravity tried to pack their EXE with Themida, but it still got cracked. Maybe I was too naive thinking that one member of a p-server community won't steal from the other.

 

@Vy Low Thank you for your support. Don't worry, I'm not going to stop working on the project.

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@meyraw There are many ways to encrypt code, I have worked with other types of games that use various forms of encryption, it is only a matter of finding the most correct way to encrypt what you have done, but you are still in time to put your apk as intellectual property.

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9 hours ago, meyraw said:

@JinYuichi You may be right. It's much harder to protect Java bytecode than a C++ native code. Having that said, even Gravity tried to pack their EXE with Themida, but it still got cracked. Maybe I was too naive thinking that one member of a p-server community won't steal from the other.

 

@Vy Low Thank you for your support. Don't worry, I'm not going to stop working on the project.

i hope you learned from your own mistake always secure your files or code before releasing it. it hard to make a unique idea or project but easy to copy your idea and make a better one. it happens all the time. even on the biggest company in the world having an issue with that but it is really hard to stop it. best example is just like another game of League of Legends sue the game Mobile Legends for copying the idea of the game but nothings happen.

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@meyraw Since your the creator of ANDRO maybe if you provide good service and more upgraded features i think people will still try to avail your services so you need not have to worry about others. This piracy and reselling of codes has become so common but one thing we cannot change and that is the service and content that the Creator provides cannot be provided by resellers. Lesson learnt and next time secure codes and try provide best service and cool features. People dont usually care about the price if they get something cool so its worth buying it

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@Brynner  @Pride I think the main lesson that I've learnt is that not everyone in the community is fair. This thread is not to make scamzone hosting stop re-selling AndRO or to cry, or whatever. Of course they will not stop re-selling. This thread is just a warning for server owners about another scam hosting, that's all.

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1 hour ago, meyraw said:

@Brynner  @Pride I think the main lesson that I've learnt is that not everyone in the community is fair. This thread is not to make scamzone hosting stop re-selling AndRO or to cry, or whatever. Of course they will not stop re-selling. This thread is just a warning for server owners about another scam hosting, that's all.

not only in this community lol. that's happening every where. and all your allegation with skyzone still a heresay without strong evidence. even you keep pushing your issue with skyzone. PandRO can still keeps improving their services you cant stop them since PandRO has its own developer or maintainer. 

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Just now, Brynner said:

not only in this community lol. that's happening every where. and all your allegation with skyzone still a heresay without strong evidence. even you keep pushing your issue with skyzone. PandRO can still keeps improving their services you cant stop them since PandRO has its own developer or maintainer. 

The only ones that require "further evidence" is you and Skyzone. For everyone else everything is clear as a day.

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54 minutes ago, meyraw said:

The only ones that require "further evidence" is you and Skyzone. For everyone else everything is clear as a day.

i don't see it clearly just like your saying. all i can see is an allegation and also your own mistake that's all what is clear in here. you haven't show any proof. just only blaming. btw its  still depends on the client what ever he wants to avail your AndRO or a better PandRO. im not on their sides and also not on your side as well.

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NEVER trust ASIAN hosting(even if they say they don't steal files but obviously they can see your root files) 😄 simple as that. go with BIG COMPANY such as OVH we have some good reputations. Learned to set-up yourself instead.

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I feel sorry for anyone who trusts this Skyzone. The guy resells DarkRO files, Haziel files and etc.. I feel sorry for those who host files on his host and later he resells.. I feel very sorry for those who trust this guy. A guy who calls himself a "developer" is just another thief. I was without my account on the forum and i made a point of doing it just to comment on this dirty one. See you

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a real DEVELOPER can create or replicate any kind of custom source/scripts from scratch with a REAL programming skills and other languages. A plus also knows how PACKET works especially in Official RO 😄 this people are just f**king copy-paste script and make themselves credits to them. 

the real DEVELOPER is on rAthena Development Team with the "GREEN BADGE" itself. without them rAthena wouldn't be possible right now. so stop claiming your goddam a.k.a Developer because you aren't (SELF-PROCLAIM DEV MY ASS). 
 

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On 5/26/2022 at 10:01 AM, Aruar1 said:

The guy resells DarkRO files, Haziel files and etc.

O.o

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On 5/26/2022 at 10:01 AM, Aruar1 said:

I feel sorry for anyone who trusts this Skyzone. The guy resells DarkRO files, Haziel files and etc.. I feel sorry for those who host files on his host and later he resells.. I feel very sorry for those who trust this guy. A guy who calls himself a "developer" is just another thief. I was without my account on the forum and i made a point of doing it just to comment on this dirty one. See you

Do not trust RO hosting related. 

 

This is a heads-up to everyone. 

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On 5/26/2022 at 10:01 AM, Aruar1 said:

I feel sorry for anyone who trusts this Skyzone. The guy resells DarkRO files, Haziel files and etc.. I feel sorry for those who host files on his host and later he resells.. I feel very sorry for those who trust this guy. A guy who calls himself a "developer" is just another thief. I was without my account on the forum and i made a point of doing it just to comment on this dirty one. See you

🤣 Mr know it all i presume.

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To anyone who was still uncertain if PandRO is just a modification of AndRO and needed "STRONG PROOF".
Let's compare the PandRO for one of the thief's clients, server RagnaLife, with AndRO for one of my clients, server MOTR.
The RagnaLife website is ragnalife.com, let's download their "Mobile client APK":
The file name is RagnaLifev354.apk (RagnaLife version 354). By the way, I have just released a version 354 of my AndRO a month ago: http://roworkshop.com/andro/main/changelog.html But that is only a coincidence, right? Only same version numbering, the app is different, right? Let's check...
Oh, and just in case RagnaLife changes their APK file, I'll just re-upload it to my own hosting: http://roworkshop.com/RagnaLifev354.apk
For server MOTR, we will use the latest APK version from this page: http://roworkshop.com/andro/main/motr.html which is http://srv2.roworkshop.com/apk/new/354/MOTR.apk
So, after we download both APK files, what we want is to rename both .apk files to .zip files (because .apk is basically a .zip file with app resources and bytecode).
All the bytecode of the app is contained inside a single file, "classes.dex". We can clearly see this file inside the ZIP archive contents.
Ok, we see the classes.dex being seemingly different (PandRO is much bigger, in fact!). Does this mean that the apps are different? Let's check.
What we want next is to open Android Studio (assuming you have one installed) and to drag and drop both "classes.dex" files into Android Studio.
What you see here is all the APK file bytecode split into classes: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen0.png
These classes have both normal (human readable) and obfuscated (those strange characters) names.
Let's analyze.
First let's open these 2 files side by side and order classes by "size" (press "Size" in the table header) to see what's so big in PandRO: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen2.png
From what we see, the classes that occupy the most size are standard Android libraries: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen3.png
We are not interested in these, let's look further. And the first obfuscated class that we see is this one: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen4.png
Same name after obfuscation, 74.9 Kb in both APKs, 41 defined methods, 41 referenced methods. If you expand the class you will see that the methods themselves are pretty much the same.
Next obfuscated class: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen5.png
Same name after obfuscation, 6 defined methods, 6 referenced methods, 0.1 Kb size difference.
You can look further by yourself and find out that these two APK files are pretty much the same. The amount of code that the thief developer has wrote by himself is about 1% of the code.
It's also easy to see if we order by Class (press "Class" in the table header) and see the class names, the situation is even easier to see: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen8.png
To better understand how much different applications really differ, I will show you the differentce between versions of AndRO, v354 and v351: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/apk/new/351/MOTR.apk
Like with previous APK files, download MOTR v351, rename to zip, unzip and open classes.dex side by side with classes.dex or MOTR v354 (don't forget to order by Class): http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen7.png
So, what we clearly see is that the obfuscated class names are different! The question is, how could the class names and functionality of PandRO be the same as AndRO? And the only answer is that PandRO is just a modification of AndRO. And RagnaLifev354.apk is a copy of MOTR v354 modified for a PandRO server.

Anyone who is still concerned can register on both servers, try both APKs and see the "differences", or actually lack of differences.

TL;DR code of AndRO and PandRO is 99% same, Skyzone is helping to sell a stolen app.

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4 hours ago, meyraw said:

To anyone who was still uncertain if PandRO is just a modification of AndRO and needed "STRONG PROOF".
Let's compare the PandRO for one of the thief's clients, server RagnaLife, with AndRO for one of my clients, server MOTR.
The RagnaLife website is ragnalife.com, let's download their "Mobile client APK":
The file name is RagnaLifev354.apk (RagnaLife version 354). By the way, I have just released a version 354 of my AndRO a month ago: http://roworkshop.com/andro/main/changelog.html But that is only a coincidence, right? Only same version numbering, the app is different, right? Let's check...
Oh, and just in case RagnaLife changes their APK file, I'll just re-upload it to my own hosting: http://roworkshop.com/RagnaLifev354.apk
For server MOTR, we will use the latest APK version from this page: http://roworkshop.com/andro/main/motr.html which is http://srv2.roworkshop.com/apk/new/354/MOTR.apk
So, after we download both APK files, what we want is to rename both .apk files to .zip files (because .apk is basically a .zip file with app resources and bytecode).
All the bytecode of the app is contained inside a single file, "classes.dex". We can clearly see this file inside the ZIP archive contents.
Ok, we see the classes.dex being seemingly different (PandRO is much bigger, in fact!). Does this mean that the apps are different? Let's check.
What we want next is to open Android Studio (assuming you have one installed) and to drag and drop both "classes.dex" files into Android Studio.
What you see here is all the APK file bytecode split into classes: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen0.png
These classes have both normal (human readable) and obfuscated (those strange characters) names.
Let's analyze.
First let's open these 2 files side by side and order classes by "size" (press "Size" in the table header) to see what's so big in PandRO: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen2.png
From what we see, the classes that occupy the most size are standard Android libraries: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen3.png
We are not interested in these, let's look further. And the first obfuscated class that we see is this one: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen4.png
Same name after obfuscation, 74.9 Kb in both APKs, 41 defined methods, 41 referenced methods. If you expand the class you will see that the methods themselves are pretty much the same.
Next obfuscated class: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen5.png
Same name after obfuscation, 6 defined methods, 6 referenced methods, 0.1 Kb size difference.
You can look further by yourself and find out that these two APK files are pretty much the same. The amount of code that the thief developer has wrote by himself is about 1% of the code.
It's also easy to see if we order by Class (press "Class" in the table header) and see the class names, the situation is even easier to see: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen8.png
To better understand how much different applications really differ, I will show you the differentce between versions of AndRO, v354 and v351: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/apk/new/351/MOTR.apk
Like with previous APK files, download MOTR v351, rename to zip, unzip and open classes.dex side by side with classes.dex or MOTR v354 (don't forget to order by Class): http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen7.png
So, what we clearly see is that the obfuscated class names are different! The question is, how could the class names and functionality of PandRO be the same as AndRO? And the only answer is that PandRO is just a modification of AndRO. And RagnaLifev354.apk is a copy of MOTR v354 modified for a PandRO server.

Anyone who is still concerned can register on both servers, try both APKs and see the "differences", or actually lack of differences.

TL;DR code of AndRO and PandRO is 99% same, Skyzone is helping to sell a stolen app.

im not sure if its really the PandRO. but if its true. well base on the code it looks like a copy. seems legit base on MOTR and RagnaLifev354. from your provided link and their link. they also forget to rename on their AndroidManifest. also i got another comparison for another AndRO.

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This is one of earlier PandRO versions that he forgot to re-obfuscate. In newer versions he changed classes names and re-obfuscated everything, so it's harder to say that it's a copy. I showed these 2 APKs as an example of his mistake, because the theft is clearly visible here.

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15 hours ago, meyraw said:

To anyone who was still uncertain if PandRO is just a modification of AndRO and needed "STRONG PROOF".
Let's compare the PandRO for one of the thief's clients, server RagnaLife, with AndRO for one of my clients, server MOTR.
The RagnaLife website is ragnalife.com, let's download their "Mobile client APK":
The file name is RagnaLifev354.apk (RagnaLife version 354). By the way, I have just released a version 354 of my AndRO a month ago: http://roworkshop.com/andro/main/changelog.html But that is only a coincidence, right? Only same version numbering, the app is different, right? Let's check...
Oh, and just in case RagnaLife changes their APK file, I'll just re-upload it to my own hosting: http://roworkshop.com/RagnaLifev354.apk
For server MOTR, we will use the latest APK version from this page: http://roworkshop.com/andro/main/motr.html which is http://srv2.roworkshop.com/apk/new/354/MOTR.apk
So, after we download both APK files, what we want is to rename both .apk files to .zip files (because .apk is basically a .zip file with app resources and bytecode).
All the bytecode of the app is contained inside a single file, "classes.dex". We can clearly see this file inside the ZIP archive contents.
Ok, we see the classes.dex being seemingly different (PandRO is much bigger, in fact!). Does this mean that the apps are different? Let's check.
What we want next is to open Android Studio (assuming you have one installed) and to drag and drop both "classes.dex" files into Android Studio.
What you see here is all the APK file bytecode split into classes: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen0.png
These classes have both normal (human readable) and obfuscated (those strange characters) names.
Let's analyze.
First let's open these 2 files side by side and order classes by "size" (press "Size" in the table header) to see what's so big in PandRO: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen2.png
From what we see, the classes that occupy the most size are standard Android libraries: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen3.png
We are not interested in these, let's look further. And the first obfuscated class that we see is this one: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen4.png
Same name after obfuscation, 74.9 Kb in both APKs, 41 defined methods, 41 referenced methods. If you expand the class you will see that the methods themselves are pretty much the same.
Next obfuscated class: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen5.png
Same name after obfuscation, 6 defined methods, 6 referenced methods, 0.1 Kb size difference.
You can look further by yourself and find out that these two APK files are pretty much the same. The amount of code that the thief developer has wrote by himself is about 1% of the code.
It's also easy to see if we order by Class (press "Class" in the table header) and see the class names, the situation is even easier to see: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen8.png
To better understand how much different applications really differ, I will show you the differentce between versions of AndRO, v354 and v351: http://srv2.roworkshop.com/apk/new/351/MOTR.apk
Like with previous APK files, download MOTR v351, rename to zip, unzip and open classes.dex side by side with classes.dex or MOTR v354 (don't forget to order by Class): http://srv2.roworkshop.com/temp/screen7.png
So, what we clearly see is that the obfuscated class names are different! The question is, how could the class names and functionality of PandRO be the same as AndRO? And the only answer is that PandRO is just a modification of AndRO. And RagnaLifev354.apk is a copy of MOTR v354 modified for a PandRO server.

Anyone who is still concerned can register on both servers, try both APKs and see the "differences", or actually lack of differences.

TL;DR code of AndRO and PandRO is 99% same, Skyzone is helping to sell a stolen app.

this is very clear. 

 

again thanks for the heads-up. people should be aware this time....

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On 5/26/2022 at 9:40 PM, vBrenth said:

O.o

THIS IS EXACTLY true, i see a lot of High-Rate server now with this Custom Classes like Padawan,Jedi or etc etc. Mostly PH Servers (Asian).
Same Feature Same Shit. 😄 (Copy-Paste Features) Maybe "Slightly" different.

Sad but it's TRUE.

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I had already mentioned that "PandRO" is a copy of AndRO, I took the time to decompile the two apk, but as I said it is still the same code base of andro, just change some names but the whole base of how it is programmed is from AndRO although several little things were changed, you realize that it is AndRO. several of these are resellers who sell things from other people ... 

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On 5/23/2022 at 1:46 PM, Pride said:

@meyraw Since your the creator of ANDRO maybe if you provide good service and more upgraded features i think people will still try to avail your services so you need not have to worry about others. This piracy and reselling of codes has become so common but one thing we cannot change and that is the service and content that the Creator provides cannot be provided by resellers. Lesson learnt and next time secure codes and try provide best service and cool features. People dont usually care about the price if they get something cool so its worth buying it

That doesn't sounds right.
So if the script is not good and you modified it afterwards. You can re-sell it? 😧

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This Allegation is wrong we don't resell anything from our customer's. We Dont Distribute AndRO on Skyzone. one thing is I know we Advertise there Works Like PandRO, Haziel, Vykimo, katakuri and Frost. they have a proof if I sell anything there works this developer's will have approval to Post and Advertise on Skyzone before I put there service on my website I Ask them if there service is OK to Put on my web pages. if not then we dont put. that is easy. many of this are saying we distribute AndRO LOL I know your feeling bad. why you dont ask @ragnazorg she can give a proof to you that we don't recreate your work @meyraw. and for all our customer's we have service polecy on our services. all there server are in Private Safe and secured.  We are not like other Reseller Hosting. we dedicated our work and services.

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