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Hi everyone,

I have seen many old topics about Harmony and Internal Guard with several opinions wrote by skilled persons.

I would like now to raise the following questions : Can we still buy a Harmony license ? Is Harmony updated and efficient ?

What about Internal Guard ? Has it become TREMENDOUSLY better ?

It's been years since people were saying "Internal Guard are new, they need time, they will become the best available solution you will see".

So I want your opinions about it (and i want them to be honest, accurate, relevant).

Is there any other EFFICIENT program except those two ?

And the final question : What is CURRENTLY the best, Internat Guard or Harmony ?

Thanking you in advance for your answers.

EDIT : If nobody answers the topic then i would like it to be removed..

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Yes there is more efficient program try to use HaShield :)

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Harmony is outdated but still in use.

Internal guard, no one is using it. <--- i did not see any good feedback about it.

HaShield Not sure about it. But ... since the Shield above ^are crap i think HaShield would be the best beside of Gepard Shield.

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Ive seen a video with a full working autopot on HaShield which is why I think they did nothing but to copypaste the system of the process id specific blacklist from internal guard but didnt make the mistake promote how it runs.

I didnt try it out but in that case you can just write a new tool with the functions you want and you are good to go because its process id is not listed. Already found a working autoclicker for HaShield so far which let me think its exactly like this, plus the admin of lokiRo released a working potnd on his server and afaik no other one was running. You might dont know it but you can de-list individual ids from its blacklist on internal guard. Very easy, very quickly.

From that point HaShield is an upgrade of IG without that horrible shell around the exe.

 

The problems in the their source code let RIP your cpu literally. I have an i3770k and had 100%  after a while. This isnt even the case if I open 30 real clients in max resolution on my pc..

 

Its just clever marketing for overpriced stuff which adelays fanbois may going to buy and will change nothing over time because its the same logic behind which is already existing in other security programs. Oh, and did I already mention that even the latest rev of adelays is still letting ppl in hitlock for no reason even if they have Sader's devotion? Even 1 1/2 years after it came out its nothing but experimental shit to grab some money out of your wallets.

I would wait how they will improve HaShield in the future or if there are no useful updates, just wait at least until they lowered the price to not throw that much money into their throats. Not for this immature software.

 

If a server comes out which is worth writing some new tools, new working ones will be written imedietly. It will just take some time before they got leaked from exclusive guild circles to the mass of players.

 

Btw: Im playing EstlandRo and from what Ive seen there is a bot around for GepardShield. Not to mention they want more then 200 dollar for their software. lol

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I'm following this discussion too

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Btw: Im playing EstlandRo and from what Ive seen there is a bot around for GepardShield.

 

Hello! Did you hear about visual bots:)
 
Gepard Shield - it is a modular anticheat.
 
Module against emulation of mouse and keyboard is disabled for EstlandRO MR by admin of the server.
 
For this reason everybody can use automation script. For example AutoIt, Clickermann, AHK ;-)
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Btw: Im playing EstlandRo and from what Ive seen there is a bot around for GepardShield.

 

Hello! Did you hear about visual bots:)
 
Gepard Shield - it is a modular anticheat.
 
Module against emulation of mouse and keyboard is disabled for EstlandRO MR by admin of the server.
 
For this reason everybody can use automation script. For example AutoIt, Clickermann, AHK ;-)

I think I have much more experience with you when it comes to detect bots, especially because you dont even bother to try to catch one. Im cheating/abusing things like 5-6 of my 8 years and see very quickly what is wrong and how it can be used for the own profit. You have a problem in bylan 2 with with visual SN bots btw. Should be 3 or 4 if I counted right.

 

Could give you a very accurate example and why this highly unlikely not just a visual type but such biased admins dont deserve any help.

Module emulation is working fine with my chinese macro mouse btw. lol. And its a unofficial known fact that a specific guild has connections to mao, the guy made harmony look like a joke once.

 

Also, your gepard shield can cause heavy lightmap bugs which cannot be fixed by /lightmap. It seems like it is a connection with flash player (maybe its not but my flash player in mozilla wasnt running smooth, crashed and I had this error straight after that; fp is outdated and shouldnt be used anymore anyways). Very annoying when your full screen is white, unfixable and the error appears again after restarting the exe. The only help was a full restart of my computer. Not so amusing during sunday woe. To be fair, the error appears in very rare cases. We had only 2 players with it last woe.

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I think I have much more experience with you when it comes to detect bots, especially because you dont even bother to try to catch one.

 
You can assess your experience as you want. But why do think that I don't bother to catch bots ? Can you prove it ?  :)
 

You have a problem in bylan 2 with with visual SN bots btw. Should be 3 or 4 if I counted right.

 

As I mentioned in my previous message, admin of the server decided to allow using automation tools, clickers. For this reason it is possible to use visual bots. It is not fault of Gepard Shield.

 

Could give you a very accurate example and why this highly unlikely not just a visual type but such biased admins dont deserve any help.

 

It is just words. But you should know that any anticheat can be bypassed. It is only a matter of time.  ;)

 

Module emulation is working fine with my chinese macro mouse btw. lol.

 
I think, your mouse has own driver. Gepard Shield, as any other popular anticheat(Harmony, HaShield), works in user mode and can't protect game against driver in kernel mode.
 

Also, your gepard shield can cause heavy lightmap bugs which cannot be fixed by /lightmap. It seems like it is a connection with flash player (maybe its not but my flash player in mozilla wasnt running smooth, crashed and I had this error straight after that; fp is outdated and shouldnt be used anymore anyways). Very annoying when your full screen is white, unfixable and the error appears again after restarting the exe. The only help was a full restart of my computer. Not so amusing during sunday woe. To be fair, the error appears in very rare cases. We had only 2 players with it last woe.

 

It is a mere surmise. I don't see connection between Gepard Shield and your problem.
 
Why didn't you create topic on the server's forum about it ? Why other players didn't say about it ?
 
You should check your PC for viruses.
 
If it does not help, I recommend you to create topic with information of your problem on the server's forum.
 
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hashield now having problems with latest rathena server files.. wew.. /...

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anyone using this ragnashield?

https://ragnahosting.com/ragnashield

its free but for only ragnahosting clients
/pif 

 

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So which shield is best now ?

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anyone using this ragnashield?

https://ragnahosting.com/ragnashield

its free but for only ragnahosting clients

/pif 

 

 

I am, and I strongly recommend it.

Not only is it extremely useful for keeping people banned properly, but you can even use it for things such as preventing dual-clienting on certain things (BG, Events) and offering safe Daily Rewards.

It's got third party blocking, MAC and other Hardware ID logging, protection from editing files you don't want people changing, and great customer service.

I can't imagine running half of the scripts in my server without fear of people abusing them without RagnaShield being in place.

Listen to me, I almost sound like some sort of salesman. But I'm extremely happy with both the protection that RagnaShield offers my server as well as the hosting service and DDoS Protection I'm getting from RagnaHosting.

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But RagnarShield not work alone, have to pay with their hosting :(

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Harmony = Lag

HaShield = Solution

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Harmony = Lag

HaShield = Solution

Hashield = off sale :((

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Harmony = Lag

HaShield = Solution

 

HaShield = Solution? Excuse me? It's a horrible protection..truth to be told. Harmony and Gepard are both on the top of this game. Although Harmony is extremely outdated, I'm not sure why the author did not continued it..but it is way better than most "protection" nowadays.

 

Source of info: 1 guy from the Philippines bypassed ALL anticheat present today for RO.

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About RagnaShield, really works? and if it works, prevent from using the new systems? like autopot and stuff?

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RagnaShield does block stuff. However it does give you some semblance of control over what people can do with your server. If they still hack, go @ragnafullban up their behinds.

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