AsaphHoratio Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4 Reputation: 2 Joined: 11/22/14 Last Seen: October 8, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) DEV KURO, ALSO KNOWN AS AARON PATRICK CATULIN, is a scammer. I had made a deal with him for $110AUD for a full project, client side and server side. Partial payment of $70AUD was to be made to him on 4 Sept 14 before he started on work. Having made the payment, be began to start ignoring me and did not want to produce the files. He last replied me on 14 Sep 14. He ignored me for over a month till 11 Oct 14 before I disputed the payment. I had no choice but to dispute the paypal payment, but with the good being intangible, my dispute was declined. Only then did he bother to reply, 12 Oct 14. He assured me that he will produce the goods and that it would be done within 2 weeks. He promised he would reply, but again, he went missing and did not want to reply me till date, 22 Nov 14. I'm now scammed and here's the evidence. To those who want to engage in his services, BEWARE. I know there's no way he's going to give me my files since he's ignored me for so long. As a Christian, I'm going to try to forgive him and let him do whatever he wants. But it's only right for me to inform everyone else, lest they get scammed too. Just feeling quite sad to be this unfortunate. Thanks for reading and be careful! Edited November 22, 2014 by AsaphHoratio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 162 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1546 Reputation: 192 Joined: 07/23/14 Last Seen: May 26, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I prefer Developers here at rAthena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yonko Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 166 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 789 Reputation: 50 Joined: 04/16/12 Last Seen: July 8, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Lesson learned. Radian is right better to look developers at Paid Section so that you'll know their reputations and feedbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinity Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 99 Reputation: 5 Joined: 07/18/13 Last Seen: January 9 Share Posted November 22, 2014 file a dispute if its not a personal payment. Never engage in personal payments via paypal unless you're not buying anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsaphHoratio Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4 Reputation: 2 Joined: 11/22/14 Last Seen: October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the advice Edited November 22, 2014 by AsaphHoratio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cydh Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Developer Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2285 Reputation: 745 Joined: 06/16/12 Last Seen: June 30, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2014 does he have account here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sryx Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 520 Reputation: 64 Joined: 11/19/11 Last Seen: Yesterday at 02:29 PM Share Posted November 22, 2014 Report it to Paypal they can hold the payment for a while and investigate since you have some proofs you can refund it but it take weeks/month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsaphHoratio Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4 Reputation: 2 Joined: 11/22/14 Last Seen: October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Thanks for the advice, I will do just that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diconfrost VaNz Posted November 23, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 974 Reputation: 41 Joined: 11/13/11 Last Seen: December 20, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2014 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Well, many so-called paid developers are wandering now in facebook and they're acting like pros SRSLY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cydh Posted November 23, 2014 Group: Developer Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2285 Reputation: 745 Joined: 06/16/12 Last Seen: June 30, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Well, many so-called paid developers are wandering now in facebook and they're acting like pros SRSLY! me in FB, just messing around by manga/manwha book that I buy/read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystery Posted November 23, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 94 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2192 Reputation: 252 Joined: 11/11/11 Last Seen: June 24, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Another tip: NEVER create a paypal transaction with a NON-VERIFIED paypal account. It's a sure sign that the recipient is most likely a scammer. Non-Verified accounts haven't been linked to a bank account, so they can transfer the funds to another paypal account and close theirs down without any issues. The Paid Services section exists for a reason. I vet those services on a regular basis to ensure our community members don't get scammed :/ Very true. The only one you need to blame is yourself Asaph for not doing a bit more research. Hopefully you learn from this mistake =/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diconfrost VaNz Posted November 24, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 974 Reputation: 41 Joined: 11/13/11 Last Seen: December 20, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2014 · Hidden by Akkarin, November 25, 2014 - Irrelevant Hidden by Akkarin, November 25, 2014 - Irrelevant Well, many so-called paid developers are wandering now in facebook and they're acting like pros SRSLY! me in FB, just messing around by manga/manwha book that I buy/read HAHAHA that's so fucked up dude Link to comment
Conflicts Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 317 Reputation: 63 Joined: 11/13/11 Last Seen: November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Give the guy a break. I don't mean to offend but even services listed on the Paid Services section may get you scammed. Maybe I'm just unlucky. But I've yet again hired the services of one guy from that section, and it's been 3 weeks now since my advance payment (for the whole thing!). Yet it still isn't done. You can only do so much to prevent getting scammed. I suggest you learn stuff yourself and as much as possible avoid these kinds of 'services'. Oh and, to the OP, if you still need help, I can set your server up for you, free of charge. You can add me on Skype if you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yonko Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 166 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 789 Reputation: 50 Joined: 04/16/12 Last Seen: July 8, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2014 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Well, many so-called paid developers are wandering now in facebook and they're acting like pros SRSLY! HAHAHA agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diconfrost VaNz Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 974 Reputation: 41 Joined: 11/13/11 Last Seen: December 20, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Want to have your server for free? Just gimme some coffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinity Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 99 Reputation: 5 Joined: 07/18/13 Last Seen: January 9 Share Posted November 25, 2014 again, if the order is intangible, you can't win unless its a chargeback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyVPS Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 143 Reputation: 15 Joined: 12/25/13 Last Seen: February 13, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Hello.. some other hosting offers a free setup/config.. dont risk too much money to create a server. and you can just study and learn how to do it by your self, the risk of being scammed is lessen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diconfrost VaNz Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 974 Reputation: 41 Joined: 11/13/11 Last Seen: December 20, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Tip of advice? You should learn how to do things first before running your own server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
44RON Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3 Reputation: 0 Joined: 02/18/14 Last Seen: December 2, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2014 My account in paypal is already verified since in the beginning I use it. Hindi niyo alam ang whole story about dito. At nag issue na siya nun ng refund at ako ang pinanigan ng paypal. Hindi ako gumagamit ng non-verified account sa paypal. Push mo yan. Go lang ng go. Scammer ako? Edi sana matagal ng umalis sakin mga client ko at mga nakahost sakin na server. Good luck and God Bless. Yan lang masasabi ko. Hindi ako padadaig sa mga paninira mo. Wag tatanga tanga please! Alamin niyo muna lahat bago kayo magkumento! Acting like pros? Nahiya naman ako sayo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted November 26, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 162 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1546 Reputation: 192 Joined: 07/23/14 Last Seen: May 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2014 My account in paypal is already verified since in the beginning I use it. Hindi niyo alam ang whole story about dito. At nag issue na siya nun ng refund at ako ang pinanigan ng paypal. Hindi ako gumagamit ng non-verified account sa paypal. Push mo yan. Go lang ng go. Scammer ako? Edi sana matagal ng umalis sakin mga client ko at mga nakahost sakin na server. Good luck and God Bless. Yan lang masasabi ko. Hindi ako padadaig sa mga paninira mo. Wag tatanga tanga please! Alamin niyo muna lahat bago kayo magkumento! Acting like pros? Nahiya naman ako sayo. Im not here to make any issue but please use English so others can understand. as you are on the General forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conflicts Posted November 26, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 317 Reputation: 63 Joined: 11/13/11 Last Seen: November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2014 My account in paypal is already verified since in the beginning I use it. Hindi niyo alam ang whole story about dito. At nag issue na siya nun ng refund at ako ang pinanigan ng paypal. Hindi ako gumagamit ng non-verified account sa paypal. Push mo yan. Go lang ng go. Scammer ako? Edi sana matagal ng umalis sakin mga client ko at mga nakahost sakin na server. Good luck and God Bless. Yan lang masasabi ko. Hindi ako padadaig sa mga paninira mo. Wag tatanga tanga please! Alamin niyo muna lahat bago kayo magkumento! Acting like pros? Nahiya naman ako sayo. And you've had the guts to even respond here. How low can you get? I do understand Tagalog, and I'll try my best to make you realize how stupid your argument is. My account in paypal is already verified since in the beginning I use it.- Yes, Akkarin misunderstood it, but it was the buyer's account which was Unverified. Based on that screenshot. Hindi niyo alam ang whole story about dito. [You don't know the story behind this.] - What else should we be aware of? The guy posted screenshots showing your conversation. At nag issue na siya nun ng refund at ako ang pinanigan ng paypal. [He filed a dispute [not refund dude] and PayPal decided it on my favor.] - Well yeah, good for you. He was buying intangible goods so PayPal would always favor the Seller in that situation. It doesn't mean you did your job though. Push mo yan. Go lang ng go. Scammer ako? Edi sana matagal ng umalis sakin mga client ko at mga nakahost sakin na server. Good luck and God Bless. Yan lang masasabi ko. [blah blah, you're saying I'm a scammer?Then my clients who has their server hosted with me should've all left. Good luck and God Bless] - I don't see how this is relevant. You might have not scammed all of your clients, but you scammed this person, that's for sure. In conclusion. If someone's claiming to be a Developer, chances are, he's not. Except of course for those who really have had the Core Developer position on eA / rA / Herc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomjoms123 Posted November 26, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4 Reputation: 0 Joined: 06/11/12 Last Seen: April 19, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2014 do not trust Dev Kuro a lot of issue about that person i have 3 clients who got scammed by Kuro one is 280$ one is 140$. Kuro always said we dont know nothing about the story, etc etc etc. hahaha do not believe in KURO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsaphHoratio Posted November 26, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4 Reputation: 2 Joined: 11/22/14 Last Seen: October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 It's true, I should have checked and I deserve it. Really appreciate the understanding and sympathy. My only goal in this was to make known the kind of person he is. Withat that i'm satisfied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Posted November 26, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Reputation: 4 Joined: 08/28/13 Last Seen: April 4, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2014 oh men oh men oh men scammers nowadays also that vince nesty something o.o Can i ask? Dev kuno i mean dev kuro or any dev pros arounds here How do you call your self as tittled "Developer" if you just setting up a basic server a basic customs cant even make your own npc scripts own src scripts.And you just adding some npc that mades by pther people and not made by you A real developer should relate thumps up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted November 26, 2014 Group: Members Topic Count: 162 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1546 Reputation: 192 Joined: 07/23/14 Last Seen: May 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2014 How do you call your self as tittled "Developer" if you just setting up a basic server a basic customs cant even make your own npc scripts own src scripts.And you just adding some npc that mades by pther people and not made by you A real developer should relate thumps up For my own opinion being a " Developer " means that you are good of what you do and what should you do. anybody can be Developer depends on what you are good in. Dont pretend that you are a Developer, be a real Developer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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